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Racism in Australia

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The Little Grey,
Well, in my experience it is the racists who constantly complain about racism.
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 5:37:44 AM
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The Racist - Catch 22

You know how you can tell that people are still oppressed? Because people are still oppressed. If you claim that you are not a racist person (or, at least, that you’re committed to working your ass off not to be one — which is really the best that any of us can promise), then you must believe that people are fundamentally born equal. So if that’s true, then in a vacuum, factors like skin color should have no effect on anyone’s success. Right? And therefore, if you really believe that all people are created equal, then when you see that drastic racial inequalities exist in the real world, the only thing that you could possibly conclude is that some external force is holding certain people back. Like…racism. Right? So congratulations! You believe in racism!

Unless you don’t actually think that people are born equal. And if you don’t believe that people are born equal, then you’re a f...g racist.
Posted by YEBIGA, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 9:10:53 AM
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One little flaw in your argument YEBIGA, it doesn't work.

I must be a racist, & quite happily so. I am also not "committed to working your ass off not to be one". I don't believe people were born equal, & I do believe that anyone who does think so is a fool, & definitely one of the less equal.

I also don't believe that skin colour has anything to do with people being equal. Some are just dumb. Some are born into circumstances that make it impossible to even get to first base, let alone reach their potential. But even with the beat of everything, many just don't have the potentials to achieve anything. Some rise above all obstacles to achieve greatness. Equal, don' be silly.

There is no chance of telling me all are equal, so what does that make me?
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 9:49:18 AM
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Hasbeen said
"There is no chance of telling me all are equal, so what does that make me?"
Smart! Congratulations, you have escaped the Matrix.
Posted by YEBIGA, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 10:16:09 AM
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YEBIGA,

Do you see a difference between being prejudiced and racist? Sometimes I feel we confuse the two. In my own experience of a few years back, when I accompanied my new partner for the first time back home to NZ for a "tangi" (Maori funeral). I must admit I was very apprehensive about being the only "white guy" in a crowd of 500 Maoris, didn't know the language, didn't known the protocols, how would they look upon me, I felt very insecure, having to stay at the marae for 4 days, very apprehensive. I met my partners brothers and others for the first time, some looked like classic characters from a 'Mad Max' movie. My fears proved to be unfounded they accepted me as a 'bro' been back several times never had a problem. To a lesser extent I felt a bit apprehensive the first time I visited a Muslim friends house, I recall him chastising his daughter for talking in Arabic in front of us, told her to speak English as it was rude to speak Arabic when we didn't understand what was being said. Out of respect I wont take alcohol to a Muslim house so instead we take a cake.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 10:48:41 AM
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Paul 1405, "I must admit I was very apprehensive about being the only "white guy" in a crowd of 500 Maoris"

Storytelling has come to prominence in modern rhetoric, but do tell how there was only one 'white' at a funeral of 500 Maoris? A funeral party of 500+1, apparently.

Just going more broadly, it is nothing short of astounding how many teens to 'thirty-something' products of modern education (not referring to your senior self, Paul 1405) are convinced by media reports and articles that are 100% anecdotal and very often third hand, without a shred of evidence to be had.

There are news reports, including by the publicly-funded national broadcaster that rely on anecdote and give the storytelling oxygen, even where reliable sources, for example the ADF have indicated that the anecdotal comments, usually from activists and people with obvious self-interest, cannot be relied upon.
Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 1:24:20 PM
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