rechtub, I don't recall ever thinking it was affordable. Rather I think the issue of political honesty is a bigger issue than that particular straw added to the camels back.

Abbott has at least one of the options available that Julia had. He could go to the polls admitting that the committments they made prior to the last election are not all achievable.

My impression is that so far other than stuffing around with education funding they have not clearly breached (or tried to breach) pre-election committments. Debt is a biggy thats still out there but at this stage it is in the not achieved rather than dropped category.

R0bert

Not only that, RObert, but the Abbott govt has outstripped Labor govt's average borrowing since September by around 20% - $50 odd billion since the election...$7 billion last week.

And I do recall Pyne attempting and still gnawing away and tinkering with Gonski. There's a whole raft of things they never mentioned pre-election...medicare co-payments have been mooted, tinkering with medicare in general, tinkering with pensions...etc, etc.

Remember what Abbott has made clear...they're going to implement the policies they outlined before the election - not the one's we "thought" they outlined.

Lol!

Chris, you walk a fine line, as the truth is becoming harder and harder to talk about without be branded as a racist or similar.

I must say I agree with you that it is irresponsible to allow mentally disabled people to bare children, while not only expecting others to be responsible for paying for the child, but paying for ongoing caring, should it be unfortunate enough to be handicapped. The line must be drawn somewhere.

You could say they spun a whole lot of crap. Abbott had an agenda that would not be favorable to an electorate. So he deliberately misinformed the public. That could be seen as more deceivable than anything Julia had ever done. The man is a ferret, and will never make a leader of anything.

Robert i was not suggesting you thought the scheem was affordable, I had aleaded assumed you were clever enough to know where we are.

Poirot, just what do you think Abbott has spent the money on.

Has he commenced any major public ifrastructure programs?

Has he spent billion on our health system?

Has he spent billion s on Gonski?

No, i think you will find that all he has spent money on is either trying ti fix one of labors many stuff ups, or, pumped money into the inherited illegals mess, another labor fiasco, or, has he simply been paying interest on labors MASSIVE DEBT that they so conveniently rang up and left behind.

I do recall he putting a few billion into banks of some kind.

So, rather than try to brush your beloved labors screw ups onto Abbott, perhaps you could man up and acknowledge the mess you appear to have helped to create.

butch you are a floating volcano, ready to spew at any time. Abbott is responsible for the best part of 60 billion since he has been at the helm. He was not talking anything of the sort before the election. Is that misinformation, that is why we do not have a ceiling for debt any more. Abbott had it all under control, as he told anyone. But as we find out they don't even have a plan, let alone any policy. And now he has gone against solar, trivial stuff that will not achieve anything, like the price on carbon, virtual money that does not exist, why all because of his big mouth.