rehctub,
Parents choose to be parents not for the population growth factor.
Parents should be totally responsible for their own situation and their families.
Mothers should stay at home and care for their children and not hand them over to a third party for care while they go off to work for money they need to support their 'over the top' life styles.
Half the socio/sibling problems of today stem from farmed out children that have developed a schizoid twin family psychosis.
They goon to be the undereducated, under-performing and underachieving social misfits that fill our courts today.
They choose to mortgage themselves into massive debt that needs to be serviced thus two working partners etc.
Two 4x4 in the garage also mortgaged and all the rest of the paraphernalia that goes with the lifestyle.
Why should I pay for someone else's child minding as well as their birth and now the PPS?
I even pay for their medical consultations for the pill so they can have sex for fun and then for the pill itself.

OTB.....The baby bonus did increase 'fertility' population which was its aim.

I do not hide the fact that I was a fan of the Howard government, buy, this was yet another government policy that was simply il thought out, evidence being in the way that so many 'unmarried' kids, had kids themselves, just for the money. Meanwhile, working mothers/couples, who the scheme was no doubt targeted at, found that while on the one hand they received the bonus, while on the othe were faced with increased, hard to secure, child care costs.

The result of the BB was a lowering of the age whereby one could own a plasma, or an upgraded sound system for their dysfunctional families corrola.

What a waste fest it was.

At some point in time, albeit, too late in my view, governments have to come to grips with the fact that welfare, provided by way of cash, is simply providing a feeding frenzy for the local pubs and clubs, and the likes of the Harvey Normans of the land.

Now of cause there are many recipients who do the right thing, but sadly, just one case of welfare waste, undoes the good that so many respectful recipients do.

....Half the socio/sibling problems of today stem from farmed out children that have developed a schizoid twin family psychosis.

Sorry Chris, but I have to disagree, as it is my view that most of todays youth problems stem from lack of discipline, brought about mainly by do-gooders with their successful push to have corporal punishment removed from schools, and/or their making disciplining children socially unacceptable, or, by plain laziness or inherited traits from the parents.

As for day care, quality day care in my view, and personal experience is priceless, evidence being in the fact that the majority of grade one attendees are now able to perform basic reading and righting skills from day one. Furthermore, children from single child families, who have attended day care have reasonable social interaction skills, something that can be a problem with one child families.

As for being social misfits, unfortunately kids are (in most cases) the product of their upbringing, whereby a major cause is broken relationships where they ( mainly boys) get to an age where their mother (unusually their carer) looses control.

Finally, please understand that I do not support Abbott PPL scheme either and hope it fails to pass.

rehctub,

I fervently hope that the Abbott government learns from this and exacts some accountability from the feminist elite of educated middle class women who are ensconced in taxpayer-funded 'gender' advising roles and who proffer advice to government that is slanted to further advantage them above the 'common herd'.

Then there is the expensive fraud of it all. Millions being wasted for decades on offices, travel and remuneration for a uniquely selfish, egocentric, egotistical, but above all materialistic feminist elite who merely copy and paste suspect research, findings and policies that suit them from elsewhere and don't bother to consider any Australian differences.

It will be a very long, very cold day in Hell before any of the smug, self-seeking feminist elite in Oz ever consider the real, fundamental issues that affect women and especially women with families, such as town and city planning, transport, PPTE and yes, the example I gave earlier, employer sponsored child care at or near the workplace.

It will be an even colder day in Hell before the smug, self-seeking feminist elite in Oz ever accept the rather obvious, indisputable reality that women go through many transitions in life and no, not all of them want to always put career and materialism first in their lives. It is about a life worth living, family and friends, not expensive shoes and expensive hotels.

But then the feminist elite would have to accept that women really do have choices and are quite happy to be accountable for their own decisions. All women need as does the remainder of society is government that will consult broadly and directly with the public ans especially those affected by government decisions, and not just rely on advice from the squeaky wheels.

Any practical recommendation will inevitably come from within the affected community and not from a smug self-centered feminist elite with the front to claim that they represent women without ever being elected, and probably without ever rubbing shoulders with the 'common herd' of ordinary women they likely despise anyhow.

rehctub,
I don't know where you get this claptrap you sprook from but I can tell you, from someone at the pointy end of social/economic equation, that apart from the expected implosion of indigenous community life, the next greatest challenge to law and order in the north of QLD is the vicious thuggery and impersonal criminality exhibited in the youth of the so called sophisticated darlings of the latte set.
When you bounce up to their door at midnight with their 12 year old in custody and you find the babysitter trying to handle two or three spoiled little s*&^ts who spend their days in your beloved child care, you can understand why the sitter has lost one.
Personally I couldn't give a damn whether these kids grow up in kindergartens or creches or pre school or whatever just so long as the parents pay for it and not the tax payer.