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The Forum > General Discussion > $7bn for 3% of Labor's mega white elephant NBN.

$7bn for 3% of Labor's mega white elephant NBN.

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Sorry for the double post, clicked the wrong tab.

It would appear that the only people backing the old NBN of fibre to the home for everyone are those with little to no technical know how or background.

I suppose I shouldn't have called Renai LeMay a pinhead, but his articles are so full of technical inaccuracies that his blatant labor propaganda just seems like another lie.

So far Labor has splashed $7bn against the wall and has very little to show for it. The projected cost of their scheme would have been 4x what they promised voters and many years late.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 8:53:32 AM
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I am connected to the NBN and I love it.
Before it's arrival I was on a pathetic satellite connection and was paying $29 for 1 Gig at a very slow speed.
Now I have 20Gigs for $55 and it is very rapid and reliable.
Thank you labor for giving it to me
Posted by Robert LePage, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 9:19:39 AM
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The whole NBN plan was a train wreck waiting to happen, because what's the point in providing ultra fast internet to every house, in trust that they may use it.

It would be fair to say that a large majority of households use internet to shop, connect to face book/email, browse the net and download games and pornos.

At best, governments should provide the infrastrucure and users should pay to have it taken to their homes/businesses and connected.

besides, so many these days use the likes of hot spot on their phones, then connect to a tablet of lap top.

Land based anything in communications is fast becoming for this who need it.

I sometimes wonder if John Howard and co would not have been better off plunging us into huge debt, because at least then we would not only have limited labors ability to waste money,but we would also have something to show for it, as opposed to the unfunded, or il planned policy left overs we have today, not to mention the illegals debacle that Tony Abbott has rectified in just six months, something labor couldn't achieve in six years.

Rudd, Gillard,Rudd will be remembered for genrations as the economic vandals they were.
Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 9:23:52 AM
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Poirot, I read the link you gave but I soon realised he did not know
what he was talking about. I could not find what his background was
until I read SM's post.
Well it is this way; have you heard the complaints by the people who
have been connected to the NBN ?

They are complaining that it is not as fast as expected.
Of course it is not faster, anyone who has a clue will know that.
You can only receive data as fast as the remote computer to which you
are connected can dish it out.

Fundermental 1.
Data is sent in packets of variable number of bytes.
With the fibre the packets arrive in your computer much faster.
The time between packets is increased by the time the NBN has to wait
for the next packet from the remote computer.
Because even with ADSL you had to wait for packets to arrive because
the remote computer was busy putting out data elsewhere.
With fibre that delay is unchanged.

The politicians deceived everyone into believing everything would
happen at lightening speed.
There is another point, there will be an increase in speed, but it is
just that you will need an oscilloscope to measure it !
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 10:18:25 AM
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Howard has got something to show for it. He built a railroad to nowhere.
Posted by 579, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 10:22:29 AM
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Dear Robert,

Obviously you live in a remote area which had no internet service before. Now you have internet access and you are happy - and I am happy for you too.

But that has nothing in particular to do with the NBN: infrastructure was missing altogether in your area and that has been fixed - good on you, but it does not require digging up all urban and suburban streets across Australia which had ADSL for decades, taking out the copper networks there which people are happy with and replacing it with something else they don't need.

Most people require a connection to the internet, but the details are not important and except for hard-gamers and certain professionals, the speed beyond about 1Mbit/sec matters not at all (in fact it can be a curse when you pay for volume, because then if you open the wrong link it downloads volumes before you even realise your mistake). Same for volume: my minimum program gives me up to 50GB/month without me ever asking for it, of which I only use about 5-6GB, I just don't need the rest.

And by-the-way, I pay much less than you (for my unneeded 50GB): $55/month for 20GB is exorbitant, but I suppose being out in the country it's better than having nothing at all.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 11:12:08 AM
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