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Bad Guy Good Guy Ukraine

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Worthwhile article on Putin and Western leaders actions etc. + link to speech.

Personally Putin is no angel and has lots of blood on his hands but in this instance his diplomacy is by far better than the idiot western puppets.

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/03/10/putin-speaks/

ou can read an English translation of Vladimir Putin’s March 4 press conference here:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article37889.htm
Posted by Philip S, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 3:29:45 PM
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Yuyutsu>> You only confirm what I wrote, that anyone who is able should stay away from all big powers. While some are unable because they cannot withstand the military machines of the big powers,<<

Y. yes you should not play with fire, but if fire is the only game in town, you are compelled.

This issue is not about territorial claims by way of arms. The agenda is to “own” the nation and the people by way of controlling the purse strings. I consider this strategy by the European Banking Cartel akin to the old neutron bomb...it devastates cell structures but leaves bricks and mortar untouched. The bank wants the assets of the broken Ukraine and in particular a stake in the say of the Ukrainian land that the Russian gas pipes to Europe cross over., ..........and NATO wants to stick it to the Ruskies on their own front door. Both powers ie Russia and the IMF are bastards....but Russia no longer has plans to rule the world....the IMF does.

As I said the Russians are not the bad guys regarding the Crimea . In1993, the Crimean parliament established the post of President of Crimea and wrote a constitution.... but in 1995, the parliament of Ukraine intervened, scrapping the Crimean Constitution and removing Yuriy Meshkov (the President) along with his office for his actions in promoting integration with Russia.

Twenty years ago the Crimea wanted to integrate with Russia, but the Ukraine military stopped it, so the will of the Crimea people to integrate with the Russian state is not new....and it certainly is not a Russian instigated takeover as the western press spins to us.
Posted by sonofgloin, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 3:50:37 PM
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Thanks for the links Phil...yeah Putin has a no spin credibility that has evaded American presidents since the 1960's. That does not mean he will not lie through his teeth but the matter of fact dissection of the subject leads you to believe he understands what he is saying rather than regurgitating script from a teleprompter from a teleprompter.

Just on speaking your own mind....when laptops were new I was in front of an executive defending a business transaction, one senior GM and a half a dozen execs and lawyers each in their early thirties. Everyone had a lap top opened and typed continuously, excepting the GM. As the florid discussion went on between myself and the GM I marvelled at how well he was across the subject, in its entirety....then I realized he was being fed the responses......never happened to before, and has never happened since.
Posted by sonofgloin, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 4:34:40 PM
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