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Let us have some truth from Government?

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Even if you did monetary figure of the Government, any money says it is not the real cost because a lot are looked after by the charities Salvo's etc who are paid by the Government for services they render.

Personally If I was in Government I would release all the cost up to the cents also exactly how many are on welfare and how long they have been on it, after all it was Rudd and Gillard who let in the over 50,000.

The above figures would take so much heat of the present Government and let them get on with turning back the economic invaders.

It would shut up the crying Greens once and for all about them.

Labor and the Greens are big on WE HAVE A right to know what is going on BUT you never hear them ask for the real economic cost to taxpayers.
I suspect they already know but are scared if the voters find out.
Posted by Philip S, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 9:50:57 PM
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Wow, Posted by Paul1405,..,
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6253&page=0

,..<<..one of our economic refugees just hit the jackpot! With G4S given the flick off Manus Island a new mob have moved in, Transfield Services. Who are Transfield Services, I hear you ask? None other than the same bunch that until October 2013 were chaired by Abbotts good mate Tony Shepherd.

I hear you ask, who is Tony Shepherd? The same Tony Shepherd who now heads up Abbotts goon squad in the form of 'The Commission of Audit' a plumb job if ever there was one!

How much of a sweetner' is Transfield Services getting from the taxpayer, $1,220,000,000. I hear you ask,how much did the next bidder want for the job? Nothing, there wasn't another bidder, when you are spending $1.2 billion of taxpayers money there is no need for a second quote, or is there?

Great economic managers that mob in Canberra!
What about those poor PNG, $7 a day guards, that used to work for G4S, no problem they all got jobs with Transfield Services to guard the gulag, and most likely a new shirt to boot!

What about Rreza Barati, the 23 year old young man killed inside the detention centre, he gets a late night press release from Minister Morrison, retracting his previous untruth about the location for the poor fellas death.

p/s I hope you got in early and picked up a bunch of Transfield shares, they are up 25%. I wounder if Sheeperd, has a swag of em'?..>>

naw..but..bet his misses/mates/supporters..trust fund do.
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 6:23:15 AM
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How much do people, who arrive illegally in Australia in boats, receive in financial assistance? A Parliamentary library study I commissioned in early 2011 states that:

"Australian Government financial assistance to eligible asylum seekers is currently set as 89 percent of the basic Centrelink Newstart Allowance or Special Benefit Allowance.”

According to today’s Newstart Payment Rates, that means an eligible single asylum seeker with no child receives $439 per fortnight and $474 for an adult with a single dependent child. The Parliamentary Library study summary continues,

"Other financial assistance may be provided through the Asylum Seeker Assistance Scheme (ASAS) and the Integrated Humanitarian Settlement Strategy (IHSS). Newly arrived holders of humanitarian visas may also receive a one-off Crisis Payment from Centrelink equal to equal to 1 week's extra payment.”

The official Parliamentary Library summary concludes with,

"Refugees in Australia receive the same benefits as any other permanent resident. In addition, according to the Refugee Council of Australia, refugees are exempt from the newly arrived resident’s waiting period for Social Security benefits, receive 510 hours of free English language instruction and some access to post-arrival assistance.”

These are some of the financial benefits that illegal boat arrivals risk their lives for. This is after most pay for a flight to Indonesia from the Middle East and give $20,000 to $40,000 to corrupt officials and people smugglers to obtain a seat on a boat.

What if our government said, that those arriving illegally in boats would never be eligible for any financial benefits? Would that stop the illegal boat’s from arriving?

If you’d like to draw your own conclusions and read the full Parliamentary Library report on Financial assistance for asylum seekers, please visit my website www.robmessenger.com

http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/BN/2012-2013/AustGovAssistRefugees

http://www.aph.gov.au/binaries/library/pubs/bn/sp/austgovassist_refugees.pdf
Posted by spindoc, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 11:05:28 AM
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spindoc - Quote "These are some of the financial benefits that illegal boat arrivals risk their lives for. This is after most pay for a flight to Indonesia from the Middle East and give $20,000 to $40,000 to corrupt officials and people smugglers to obtain a seat on a boat.
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You conveniently leave out they potentially get these things from us for life in there country they came from they would not get 1 CENT from there Government, sounds like the definition for an economic refugee.

You also seem to believe what you have posted and think that is all, you forget how good Governments are at hiding the real cost of things and manipulating facts.
Do you believe the Governments unemployment figures or are they lower than actual numbers.
Posted by Philip S, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 1:55:07 PM
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Crackcup,
Government will not tell the truth because it believes what they tell you is the truth.
What they fail to tell you is about the countless millions in grants and funding payments they give to regional "Settlement Services" NGOs that in turn fund these people into accommodation, at the head of the line, clothing, food even vehicles to give them mobility.
No government doesn't give them a red cent. They give it to others to give it to them.
This link will let you find many of these organizations that live off the public purse.
This link will give you a look at what they get money for
http://www.immi.gov.au/living-in-australia/delivering-assistance/settlement-grants/funded-orgs-previous.htm
It is interesting that the old age pensioners get very little in contrast.
Posted by chrisgaff1000, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 4:51:25 PM
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Phillip S,

My apologies. The links I posted are credited but the content I posted was from robmessmger.com.

Most would have recognized this from the last paragraph and the link provided but when I did the cut and paste of the text I missed out the explanatory pre-amble, I also failed to put this in quotes. Mea culpa.

That said, most thinking (and reading) observers might have picked this up.

Apology offered, you can choose to accept it or not.

I didn’t actually “leave out anything” because it was not my quote, this was in response to Crackup’s quest for information on the subject and I was trying to help.

Hey ho, sometimes you can’t win a trick
Posted by spindoc, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 5:47:02 PM
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