I was shown, Friday's edition of the Herald Sun (a Melbourne newspaper), one of their senior journalists on law and order and police matters, Andrew RULE, wrote a scathing article juxtaposing the Victoria Police (VICPOL) to that of the Australian Federal Police (AFP).

He stated while VICPOL were executing dozens of search warrants upon premises allegedly owned by outlaw Bikie gangs, the AFP were 'sheepishly' (sic) executing a search warrant, against Ch.7 Studios here in Sydney apparently looking for evidence of 'proceeds of crime' associated with an alleged interview conducted with Ms Corby, in Bali ?

He RULE, berated the AFP for it's general lack of successes, together with it's apparent lack of any genuine police adroitness and discernment, compared and contrasted with their State counterparts ?

Personally, I'm relatively vague as to what functions the AFP actually perform ? Though I understand they're an amalgam of the Former Commonwealth and Australian Capital Territory Police Forces, and the former, Bureau of Narcotics, a component of Australian Customs. It's my understanding they're a comparatively young organisation, having been founded in late 1979, a mere 35 years ago ?

I do wonder therefore, are they particularly well trained ? Are they a difficult organisation to join ? Who exactly do they answer to ? And have they demonstrated any real success in the interdiction of crime in this country ?

not sure what they do
but i rekon their ok

I DEALT WITH them when i was helping freemarijuana/ryan election
regarding some political thing..OF OTHER..but it was electoral stuff
[and nigel sent em to me cause he thought i was a nark..anyhow i juST SAT TALKed with em/smoking as I ALWAYS DO

OTHER TIMES WERE IN CANBERRA..and Canberra COPS[AT LEAST..AROUND MY HOME [TENT EMBassy]..ARE SERIOUS BUT elementarily sane..in embasy dealings etc

basically you doNT SEE EM/UNLESS THEY WANT YOU
AS for the other police services..they have too much implied licence they dont have in law/but do whatever they like by formulated prosecutors foll0owing their STANDARD scripts

nope if every cop was like the fed cops
/THE WORLD WOULD BE MUCH SANER..its the wanna be cops/security inspecting snoops..wanna bes..thats the problem

any how regarding THE WARRANT ISSUED BY A complicit court system[to state cops..or feds]?,,SEEMS TYPICAL..YOU HAve to remember canberra iS ABOUT POLITricks..[and tonIES Idol..dobbed her in..guess it might have been the feds..THEIR LOYAL TO the crown.[ie govt/the state/THE fed state mate]

SO THE COIURT ISSUES THE ORDER
THE FEDS FOLLOW THEIR COMMAND..ITS NOT THE FED POLICE-ITS HIGHER.

Chanel 7 LAWYERS WIN..OVER THE Magisterial [FORMER-lawyers
oops looks LIKE [NAW DONT GO THERE/THE FEDS WILL DEMAND PROOF

they can do have a serious side/so take care..out there
THIS REALM BELONgs to the minions and demons..of hell.
take care..its satans realm out there.

O Sung Wu, I too know very little about the AFP, but have just read in the West Australian newspaper today that they made some mistakes in their raid on the Chanel 7 offices that resulted in them having to apologize.

It sounded like it was a bit heavy-handed to me, but I agree in principal with their strong stand against Corby and her family receiving any payment for her story.

I was annoyed to read that after the Indonesian Government stood by their threat to put Corby back into jail if she did an interview with the media, Corby's sister and Brother-in-law tried to get an audience with the Government officials.

Apparently, Mercedes thought Corby would be far 'happier' telling her story to the media because all the media were upsetting her.

Yeah right!
All that Corby and her greedy family want is the money for the interview, and I hope they never see a cent of it.
She is a convicted drug smuggler, and she should never profit from that.

suze..raised the issue..OF..PROCEEDS OF CRIME
AINT THE DRUG WAR..just too darn/NEAT..they criminalize..a PLANT
only god..can make to grow/..that GOD specifically gave..to all mankind/..EVERYONE..[see genesis..1'29]..

A PLANT..CLASSIFIED A DRUG.BY LIE OF BEING Put/on a scedual[all the other compounds..on the list/are real powder al-CHEMICALY DRUGS[BUT ONE 'DRUG'/NOT A DRUG..*BUT A PLANT..simply because..*IT..WAS PUT ON THE LIST/criminalizes 35.000 A YEAR[qld/alone]./raises/65million/revenue..and/..20..OUR OF 21 PLEAD GUILTY..FIRST APPEARANCE.

each givinjg..the legal aid/..$200/per guilty plea.

to 'possessing..a 'consumable'..that..WHEN/living=LAWFULLY/..a fixture/but demed..BY LIE..to be a fungible..BY LIE OF SCHEDULE DEEMING..A PLANT A DRUG.

EVEN WORSE/Govt..taking it proves..we didnt have..possesion
but get this..the state[as a NON LIVING/ENTITY]..CANT POSSES it/either..!

your..own govt dobs you in?=active TReASON/abuse of orifice.
then..there is..reasonable doubt..[the baggage guys]

and she didnt..make a cent/indeed..no doubt/has..lost income/life love/peace..and likely parenthood..and she*..cant make money..?..CAUSE ITS PROCEEDS..OF statuteD/CRIME/whEN/HER OWN..GOVT/BETRAYED...her*

yeah..i would fight that..in court
do like cooperation do..put-IT..in a legal-fund..TO FIGHT.*THE LAW..[GIVE/HER..SOME/PRIDE/WORTH MORE..THAN CASH.

THERE YA GO..SHAPPEL/ch 7..just put it..in a fighting fund
administrated..by the..CORBIES/..FOR WAGE..AND THEN SUE..FOR DAMAGES THE LIVING BEINGS..INVOLVED[THEY WILL LOVE..THE WHOLE STORY BEING HEARD..as/it..really/went-down...IN OPEN/COURT

I DARE YA..TO TRY IT
THE LAW..IS THE CRIME
AS JUSTICE STAPLES..himself said
how absurd a law..that declares..a plant a crime

its..THE TREE OF life[..see revelations 22.2[GOOGLE WIKISEED]

hempen oil..was known to issiah/smoking flax..he/TOO..refused to quench..[hemp wax made the candles..plus the wick/plus the VESTMENTS AND THE HOLY OIL

its the design of the burning bush..mosus 'saw'..on the mount
[exoDUS..25;40..[ITS ALSO THe..tree of life[..revelation..22;2]
the leaves of the tree are for the healings of nations[google wikiseed/wikigeld]

its fruits are/not..12[one in/each season]..but 38,000..last time it was checked..
http://eprints.qut.edu.au/15949/1/John_Jiggens_Thesis.pdf

also READ
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/Jack_Herer_-_The_Emperor_Wears_No_Clothes.pdf

THE BURNING BUSH..DESIGN IS THE JEWISH menorah
this bush was re found growing on the hunter river by hippies in the 60.'[as john explains well]

he dont know that the hunter was joined to the namoe river[namoi[spelled proper-way/means river of life
this was all..explained in swedenborgs acania celestia
[but the last three chapTers..were stolen/by those wanting to access THE RIVER OF LIFE/IN THESE..GREAT/SOUTH-LANDS[VABN-DIE-MENS/LAND

..UNDER A..COMMON/WEALTH SEAL/USING THE SEED
*from..the tree of life/..underpinning/REPAIRING..THE DEBASEMENT..OF..the queens coin.

its more..clear..at..the thread.S
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6152&page=0#178808

The Australian Federal Police were set up by Prime Minister, William Morris Hughes in 1917, to protect him from egg throwing Queenslander's. Since Billy died in 1952 the Fed's haven't had much to do. LOL.

Good evening there - ONE UNDER GOD and SUSEONLINE...

Thank you both for your contributions, I appreciate your efforts.

Certainly you don't hear much about them really, a major drug bust occasionally ? I'm interested in what powers they possess ? For an example, can they pull you over for a normal traffic matter ? Do they wear a uniform ? I've seen some bright red Commodores with 'Federal Police' stencilled all over them, complete with blue and red lights, flying around and about.

I'd be most interested to hear more on these people ?

Ms Corby will probably be allowed to keep her interview money ? It certainly wouldn't surprise me ? Didn't David Hicks write a book about his incarceration in Guantanamo Bay ? It was advertised and displayed in the ABC shops. Not sure if he sold too many copies though ?

Thanks again for your contributions.

Maybe David Hicks and Corby will get around the 'proceeds of crime' rule because their crimes weren't committed in Australia?
Although, obviously the AFP don't agree!

"The Australian Federal Police were set up by Prime Minister, William Morris Hughes in 1917, to protect him from egg throwing Queenslander's. Since Billy died in 1952 the Fed's haven't had much to do."
says Paul1405.
Don't take any notice of what he says he just hates police, after all he has had a couple of 'bad' experiences with them in the past so that is understandable, in fact I think they are still watching him. Perhaps Graham would know about that since he is in touch with them a lot about posters here.
Don't confuse the AFP with the Canberra police.The locals are a bunch of dolts where you gravitate to if you can't get a job in the states police services.
And yes they are very well trained for the task they do

They do wear uniforms but not all the time; I've got a nice photo of my daughter in hers.

o sung wu,
I think, not sure, the AFP are under the Attorney General.

Maybe a simple google search will gain more info about their role and responsibilities. Obviously it is to do with federal laws.

Under the present federal government there appears to be more cooperation among the various jurisdictions, which is resulting in the apprehension of big drug traffickers, which is good.

I would like there to be more action taken against the Australian end of the people trafficking. There is the long game of monitoring terrorist cells, sleepers, urgers and their misled associates.

So in answer to the OP, the AFP are like all police forces. They are like ducks in a lake, look calm so as not to frighten the flock, while paddling furiously below the surface.

It is a pity they have to waste resources on aboriginal tent protestors and the like. Especially where they are required to rescue a big-assed PM whose own political affiliates were involved in fomenting the violent protest at a restaurant to score political points, but backfiring badly in the process.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-01-26/riot-police-escort-gillard-abbott-from-protest/3795036

There is one more factor to be addressed the majority of the blame is with the AFP but they were "executing a search warrant", there is the other factor Judges are too hasty in giving in to police with search warrants.

Judges need to also be held accountable when dodgy warrants are issued.

Dear O Sung Wu,

The Federal Police are a multi-faceted law enforcement
agency involved with other global police agencies in
fighting counter-terrorism, looking after national security,
and in general - 21st Century crime.
Their involvement in the Schapelle Corby case with Channel 7
makes perfect sense - because her proposed interview with
the TV Channel could have implications for Australian relations
with Indonesia - and especially Ms Corby still being on parole,
has to adhere to the conditions of her parole. Channel 7
should be made aware of the repercussions of their actions
and the Federal Police are the people to ensure that they do
this. The Federal Police are simply protecting our country's
interests.

As for David Hicks profiting from his book?
That's an entirely different matter. The book was
written after Mr Hicks was released. Whereas Ms Corby
is still on parole. Different scenario.
Channel 7 denies that any money has been offered.
And the Federal Police, I'm sure would have made things
quite clear to the TV Channel as to what they could or
could not do.

There are columns to fill. That is what Andrew Rule did with his frivolous, mildly entertaining (to those who criticise police) piece.

Previous opinions by the High Court, by Sir Garfield Barwick for example, do not allow police leeway to do anything but investigate and where there is evidence of wrongdoing, charge. Policy and discretion belong to the government of the day and parliament.

What should the police do where OMGs are responsible for drug manufacture and trafficking, and for the standover tactics and violence that goes with it? Or where a media outlet has been brazen in publicising that it will be paying a very large sum to convicted drug smuggler who is on parole? That drug smuggler broke Australian laws too: how did the boogie board that weighed like a 'railway sleeper' get stuffed, zipped, lugged into an Australian airport and sent overseas? What is at this end that should be investigated?

BTW, it could just as easily have been something more toxic and dangerous in that bag, has anyone thought about that?

Is Mise,
They all have uniforms, even the detective branches and they have #1s for ceremonial work as well.
Ask your daughter and she will tell you that the protective branches will give their life for the person they have to protect.
They are not buffoons as some would suggest.
There was a time when they were treated with disdain by the state police forces but that all changed when some of them tried to switch jobs for the overseas escort work.
Most of them were knocked back on intellectual and psychological grounds.
Today the joining criteria and training programs are on a par with the FBI.

Chriss,

That's just about what I said but they do work in plain clothes as well.

Thoroughly agree about the level of intelligence required; it's in the genes (I like to think!).

Thank you FOXY for providing a thorough insight into the Corby/Hicks implications, of the 'Proceeds of Crime debate.

It's funny really, having served a very long time in the job, one does tend to become somewhat parochial with your own organisation. Often without paying too much attention to other allied agencies (to use an American term) with a similar commission. The AFP, Australian Customs Service, Taxation Enforcement Branch, etc are some notable examples.

I'm well aware of the interminable Departmental (Agency) resentment, that's often impaired operational collaboration. Particularly within those specialized areas such as ABCI and BCI to cite two extremely important examples. Even the old CFB (Central Fingerprint Bureau) always managed by NSWPOL occasionally got their 'knickers in a knot', unless correct, 'access protocols' were observed ! Yet we're all supposed to be on the same side ?

I believe it was CHRISGAFF1000 who suggested, the AFP have adopted the FBI's model for much of their training, and perhaps even their rank structure ? Whereas the AFP apparently use the title of 'Federal Agent', as opposed to the usual police echeloned structure of; Constable, Sergeant, Inspector etc.

The AFP sounds like a pretty professional outfit, notwithstanding that grudgingly envious and resentful journo. Andrew RULE, may've implied ?

Dear O Sung Wu,

Our Federal Police do an incredible job - and
they deserve our support not our criticism -
no question about that.

Hi there IS MISE...

I believe it was your daughter who you said was a member of the AFP ? It would be very interesting indeed to hear a little of what types of crime and issues, they involve themselves in ? Nothing classified of course, mainly their mandate, and training matters would be good ?

Many thanks IS MISE.

o sung wu,

This might be useful to you,
http://www.securitychallenges.org.au/ArticlePDFs/vol3no3McFarlane.pdf

Good evening to you ONTHEBEACH...

Thank you very much indeed for that link you provided on the roles and responsibilities of the Australian Federal Police. It's quite interesting that you hear so little from them and their functions. Other than some brilliant arrests involving 'squillions' of Dollars of seized drugs, for an example.

Your link virtually covered all the major queries I had, concerning their activities. There's no doubt at all they're an effective law enforcement body, despite the contemptuous and derisive remarks made about them, by Mr Andrew RULE, of Melbourne's Herald Sun newspaper.

Again, thank you ONTHEBEACH, I certainly value your input tremendously so ! As well as all the others who were kind enough to make a contribution.

o sung wu,

I have come across them in residential accommodation in Canberra when helping with some residential management training for APS civilian staff. They are highly professional, as are the specially trained State police.

While fools in the media might scoff at them to entertain at schoolgirl 'hate and oppose authority' level, there would be very few respectable, law-abiding citizens who would ever seriously believe that trash journalism.

People can be naive to the point of appearing clueless concerning the risks quietly controlled by the AFP and their State counterparts. They are educated, intelligent, fit and dedicated men and women too. No slouches there in any of those respects.

A Secret Court Making Secret Laws? That's No Democracy
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130707/23005323729/secret-court-making-secret-laws-thats-no-democracy.shtml

Over the weekend, the NY Times put out a powerful piece discussing how FISC has basically become a shadow Supreme Court, doling out all sorts of important rulings in total secrecy. It rules on cases where it only hears one side, and where there are no appeals, no guarantee that the full story is presented, and involves a bunch of judges who tend to have law enforcement backgrounds before being appointed to the court. In the end, you have a secret court issuing secret rulings by ex-law enforcement officials, allowing their former colleagues ever greater power to spy on everyone.
http://www.thesleuthjournal.com/nsas-fake-war-terror/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyUiXgtHR8E http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2014/02/17/israeli-watergate-scandal-facts-palestinian-water/ http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11207443

MORE DETail/media watch
http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s3951415.htm

So why all the fuss?

And why do 34 police—some of them armed—think it’s a good idea to raid a TV network?

Well, many people feel—with support from the law—that Schapelle’s a criminal who should not get a cent.

And the government agrees. edited

Before Corby’s release, the Prime Minister, Tony Abbott,..had also made it clear he disapproved..of her profiting from the tale:

" Patrick Condren:…should she benefit financially
from her time.in jail there?

Tony Abbott: Well that’s a good question..and I guess the old principle is crime..should not pay.

— Radio 4BC, Mornings with Patrick Condren,..6th February, 2014"

And Treasurer Joe Hockey had also weighed in, enthusiastically supporting Seven’s David Koch after the network star suggested Seven should not pay Corby for an interview.

" Well done @kochie_online ! It sends all the wrong messages on drugs for a convicted trafficker to be paid for her story.

— Twitter @JoeHockey, 11th February, 2014"

But was such heavy-handed action against the media really justified?
EDIT

The aim of a Literary Proceeds Order—as this confiscation is called — is to stop criminals benefiting from their notoriety.

But they’re hardly ever used, even though laws have existed in most of the states and the commonwealth for a decade or more.

Chopper Read, perhaps Australia’s most notorious criminal, never had his money confiscated, despite profiting from several books in which he bragged about the mayhem he’d caused.

And it seems only two people have fallen foul of the laws.

One is David Hicks ... Who was pursued by the Gillard government— unsuccessfully and at great expense —over his book Guantanamo: My Journey.

And the other is our Schapelle.

Back in 2007 the Queensland Supreme Court ordered her to hand over the money she’d received for Schapelle Corby: My Story.

edit

Well, despite those police raids, it’s not a criminal act for Seven to pay her money,..or for Schapelle to receive it...It’s just a civil matter.

So all options are still open.

But the big question now is whether the interview will happen at all.

one under god,
Are you blind. It is not Schapelle that wants the cash. It is her greedy sister Mercedes. She is also the guilty one.
Anyway when Schapelle gets back to Australia she is going to be charged with exporting a proscribed item (marijuana) and get another ten years.
That will really give her something to write about.

chrisgaff1000,

Police will certainly want some questions answered and she would be foolish not to cooperate. That in turn could assist her to receive some favorable treatment.

Hi there folks...

That Mercedes sounds like a real piece of work ? On the other hand I don't believe the girl Schapelle, is all that wise either from what I've heard. The whole Corby family seem to have operated on the periphery of criminality, and none too shrewdly neither. Still, I've not met too many crooks who are over endowed with grey matter in any event.

Corby's entire M.O. with this 'boogie board' thingo doesn't sound like a particularly ingenious scheme to me, I guess that's why she was caught, at the primary line in Bali ?

Thanks again to all those, who were kind enough to contribute to this rather lame topic. I really appreciate it .

Gday o sung wo, back after computer spent some time in repair shop.
In truth weighing up my bias and all, the current secrecy in all aspects involving both police and military forces is at best risky.
We should know just what is taking place always.
And if in time, as it has a habit of doing, some hidden things come to light real problems arise.
Channel 7 bless their little hearts seems well advised in taking the feds to court.

Secrecy should be measured in other ways.
What would the Government say if Labor not the Liberals did this.
Democracy demands openness.

Hi there BELLY ol' friend...

I guess all governments have secrets and I don't have a real problem with it. I suppose in order to gather intelligence one must resort to secrecy and stealth. And by virtue of that, I guess the AFP must possess a fair number of secrets also, particularly for and on behalf of the government.

As they say, it's well above my pay scale, to have to wonder about all of that sort of stuff, eh Belly ?

Nice to chat with you again my friend.

Cheers...Sung Wu.

o sung wu,
I remember when "pay scales" were the best refuge from responsibility.

o sung wu,
I just read your post about the Corby's and concur.

A couple of things I recall.

I wondered why a person would take a boogie board to Bali? I would think there would be a number of businesses renting such items out to tourists at very cheap rates.

The story about people smuggling dope from Brisbane to Sydney doesn't gel with me. A dope dealer would not risk that when he could drive it to Sydney himself or call a carrier and get boxes of undisclosed items delivered overnight. We do not have customs check points at our state borders. So the idea that a smuggler in Sydney made an error and the bag went on an international flight doesn't add up.

Of course a person would notice a bag being 4kls heavier.

I suspect that Corby had been through the customs in Indonesia many times without much checking, but this time it was more thorough. She may well be taking the blame for someone else if it was not her dope.

Hi there CHRISGAFF1000 & BANJO...

You're not wrong Chris ? The theory being; the higher-up the greasy slope you were, the less detritus that came your way, and with that, a higher salary package ? Who was it that said, '...there's no immorality within the NSWPOL...' ? Was it Wally Mellish's old mate, N.T.W.A. ?

G'day there BANJO...

You're doubtlessly correct. She'd probably made the trip to Bali too frequently, as a consequence the Indonesian authorities decided to turn her over, and bingo ! You may also be right too, when you suggest she was 'running hot' for someone else ? Still and all, you'd have to be a complete 'nuf nuf' to attempt to conceal in excess of 4kg into this boogie board bag of hers ?

Upon CORBEY'S Check-In at the Airport, don't the Airline staff usually weigh such a cumbersome piece of luggage, such as a boogie board bag, in order to determine if the aggregate weight of ALL her luggage is deemed 'excessive', therefore needed to be paid for ? If so, surely then, they would've detected the additional weight of the assemblage of board, bag, and the contraband, contained therein ?

I dunno BANJO, I guess we'll all have to wait until Ch 7 is permitted to release the whole sordid story ?

It did not take long Aussies have a dry sense of humor.
Latest e mail asked what compares with a certain young lady best.
A victor lawn mover grass catch is the answer they both carry about 4 kg of grass.

Banjo,
I drive a Mercedes and I can assure you it has a lot more integrity than the Corby brand.
Any fool can see that the sister is the guilty one. The whole family has a history of drug involvement.
o sung wu
Customs are the smartest people on earth. They have seen it all and they know when something is not kosher.
I had a mate 70 years old and kept in the Customs service because he has a nose for contraband.
He told his crew to gut a $250,000 Winnebago on a hunch.
Bingo they found thirty kilos of heroin in the walls.
The Winnebago was sold for scrap and they got $2000 the "Grannies", as the press called them, got eight years and deportation and my mate got a permanent seat in his observation post for as long as he wanted it.
In fact he died in the job from alcohol poisoning.
You cannot fool customs, sooner or later they will get you.

Good evening CHRISGAFF1000...

Of course, the 'grannies' ! That was way back in the late seventies If I recall correctly ? Somehow, I had it in my mind they were trafficking in ultra pure Cannabis Sativa Resin ? The AFP had a fair hand in it, together with Customs and obviously your mate, who actually detected the seizure in the first instance ? Ten out of ten, for Customs eh ! As you say, if you have the Customs boys on your tail, well it's 'goodnight' I reckon.

High quality Cannabis Resin is black as pitch, and has a very pungent odour about it. Should it get on your clothing, well it's goodbye clothing, as it's almost impossible to remove, with any of the conventional washing or laundry processes ?

I've had occasion to handle, only smaller quantities of the stuff, and it's quite a valuable commodity on the hierarchy of narcotics scale ? Both in terms of costs, demand and desirability. Speaking of the Corby girl, I reckon this highly refined psychotropic substance, is a little bit out of her league when it comes to costs and availability ? Still, you never can tell eh ?

o sung wu
No doubt you are correct in what the contraband was. My experience was only interaction with third parties who lauded the old mans prowess and envied his position.

Hi again CHRISGAFF1000...

By the sound of it Customs, lost a very valuable asset with this bloke's unfortunate departure ? Was it the case, he did the job, the executives took the credit ? Now why would such a notion ever enter my mind ? Perhaps a similar situation might occur in an organisation that was enshrined with as much vocational morality as the NSWPOL ?

o sung wu,

You might find the following to be a bit amusing; I was at my local police station many years ago discussing a few things with the Crown and he drew my attention to a story in the Sun.
A crim had escaped from The Bay and a young probationary constable had caught him but had lost the key to the cuffs and the press had published a photo of him and his prisoner.

"Smart lad" said the Crown "now the detectives can't claim the credit!".

Hi there IS MISE...

Yeah, that's one up on the detectives ! Funny thing though, it's GD's where every copper learns his craft. Every detective has done his time in the General Duties Branch, where the job gives you the necessary exposure, to just about every dimension of the job of policing. Believe it or not, there are many of those wearing a uniform, who have no intention of becoming a detective.

Similarly, there are many blokes who are ensconced in these quiet little spots, who have no intention of leaving them, whatever the reason. I suppose it's whatever area you're most comfortable in.

Thanks again for your support for this rather dull topic, I really appreciate it, IS MISE.