Dear Is Mise,

Perhaps I didn't explain things properly in my previous
post.

Our political views stem from notions of what we consider
responsible, moral and reasonable. People don't usually
think uniformly - therefore as far as politics
is concerned - there are often marked differences
in all political points of view between people - even within
the same political parties.

People from different backgrounds and walks of life, may
interpret the same phenomenon - whether it is a
Prime Minister's policies, a religious doctrine, or a
military action - in very different ways.

In other words,
people tend to see the world from a viewpoint of subjectivity.
An interpretation based on personal values and experiences.
Like the question of Muslims in Australia.
Our views are shaped by what our past experiences have prepared
us to see and by what we consciously or unconsciously want to
see.

Inevitably we are all guilty of some measure of bias -
the tendency to often unconscious to interpret things
according to one's own values. However, as I stated
earlier - I do try to avoid
sweeping statements and generalisations when it comes to
politics, religion, et cetera. I prefer to take people as I
find them.

I hopt this clarifies things for you.

Those who look at this problem through rose coloured glasses should
consider the statement by the Algerian Imman who said;
"We have no need to go to war to take over Europe, we will take over by the wombs of our women.".
I liked that photo about 2/3 down that link on the Daily Mail page.
That should have been taken seriously.

Foxy said;
Besides religious laws have no legal status in this country

Are you serious or tongue in cheek ?

They marry people here outside the law and presumably do not even
register the marriage. You need to keep up with the news Foxy or is
it that the media is still applying self PC censorship in Melbourne ?

I am never going to change my mind and views.
But can we look at religions all of them?
As a kid it was common to insult Catholics on the way to School and them us.
But we grew out of it,even wed some we had once abused.
IF we believe in evolution, most of us do, why do we inflict any God on our every day life.
What benefit comes to non believers by our action in saying they have freedom of religion?
The link above, a fatwa, religion order to KILL any one living on Mars?
That man never to be forgotten in Pakistan during those hate filled riots flogging an empty burning car!
The teaching western medical folk immunizing kids are trying to make Muslims impotent?
Once the cradle of education and the storehouse of knowledge this creed is no longer so, blinded by hate and a creed that tells us CONSTANTLY we are inferior, half the Muslim population of the world have a far lessor IQ than those they blindly hate.
Tell us Mr Abbott how much is it costing to stop the boats.
But too tell us how much the welfare bill is for them and tell us the average length of time they receive it.
Then tell me it is right to cut from our pensioners to pay for unwanted audience of folk criticizing us constantly.

Dear Bazz,

Don't attack the messenger.
You're better than that - and having a personal
swipe at me is no way to argue.

The fact remains that all Australians are free to
follow any religion they choose, so long as its
practices do not break any Australian law.

Australians are also free not to follow a religion.

Australia has secular government and no official
or state religion. Governments treat all citizens
as equal regardless of religion.

Religious laws have no legal status in Australia.

And if you don't believe these facts - take it up with
your Member of Parliament. Not me!

Foxy,

What is apparent is that you seem to be seriously lacking in knowledge of both Islam and Communism.

You also seem to be unaware of the legal system vis-a-vis Customary Aboriginal Law, which is religious in part, and which is used to subject Australian citizens to laws and consequent punishments that are not only outside the Law but are also often barbaric in practice.
There are two law systems in parts of this country which are recognized by the Government

Good afternoon to you PERICLES...

Unlike your preferred sobriquet 'Pericles', that well known ancient Greek Statesman, often referred to as the first citizen of Athens;

I'm not entirely sure if you're fully appraised of what's actually occurring as a consequence of the 'Islamization' of some of Sydney's south eastern suburbs ? In order for you to receive that necessary exposure, you might need a little 'environmental inoculation' by wearing a blue uniform for a few months or so, in one or two of the patrol sectors, designated for that area ?

As a former working detective, you can take my word for it my friend- Notwithstanding your highly commendable attitude, of accommodating and befriending those people from different countries and of different religions is most laudable. Regrettably, it's only when you're accosted and aggressively challenged by those from these Muslim gangs, will your entire percipience of Islam per se, will significantly alter ? To them, you are either a Muslim, or you're not. There's no middle ground, and there's NO respect for police, or authority at all.

You may quite legitimately ask why ? Thirty, thirty five years ago, during those troubled times in The Lebanon, our esteemed political leader, the Rt.Hon. Malcolm FRASER, decided to permit the flood gates to be opened for any of the 'refugees' from that country, to settle in Australia. This was done, without heeding advice from either, ASIO, the AFP, the ABCI and state police commissioners.

All of those 'stake holders', strongly suggested to government, that careful screening of all applicants MUST be undertaken before anyone from that country is permitted to settle in Australia. It was therefore suggested that ASIO conduct initial screening, and later on the AFP investigate anything 'flagged' by ASIO ? It's my understanding, this proposal was NOT accepted. In reality, other than just the merest, most desultory process of checking, there was virtually no significant screening pursued at all ?

The rest PERICLES as they say, is history.