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What do you see as the differences between the two major parties - the Libs and Labor?

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Dear Johan (OUG),

Thank You for raising the plight of the farmers.
As Malcolm Turnbull pointed out - Australian
farmers are the least subsidised (by government)
farmers, in the world. And good-on Barnaby Joyce for
fighting on their behalf. The farmers are not asking for
a "hand-out" merely some help during the drought
in order to survive.

Fingers-crossed they will get the help they so desperately
need. These are people who are successful at what they're
doing. It's simply a case of special circumstances that
they currently find themselves in. Help should be provided.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 16 February 2014 2:34:41 PM
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cont'd ...

Do we want to be reduced to a nation of
just pubs, casinos, cafes and restaurants?
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 16 February 2014 2:38:05 PM
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ITS JUST HUMAN NATURE..to be OVER-optimistic..and for the rest of us optimists..wE ..invest..then takE our chances..[unlesS your one of them with govts ear/PURSE..then you can ignore the basic..knowing govt wail supply fUEL/fodder/roads etc

thing is lexie..you seen lot fed cattle[fed largely on grain]
that dont digest well in a cow gut..and makes cattle sick]

anyhow..THERE IS LITTLE NEED for so much land..so far away
if we grew them in cities..free range HIGHRISE cowboys..AS OPPOSED TO THE MACAQUE street farmers NOW TELLING OTHERS WHAT..TO STOCK..

ITS JUST TOO EASY..TO get gOVT cash..to build your fencing..for govt to pay you to plant trees/DAMS/..for govt to build roads into the never/NEVER [BACK OF BOURKE.

suRE we need food..but developing countries make product..cheaper than us[and if our dollar wasnt continually solddown..by govt spending big on bying junk american fighters and f111's etc[our dollar could buy our food half the 'real cost of production..

its like farmers are gods..cause they 'feed'us[look at the mess in the eu/via farmers lobby getting paid..to not grow food..[thING IS IT ISNT MOM AND POP/FEEDING US]..thats the spin..but heCK..NEED FREE IRRIGATION..NO WORRIES

free fence..no sweat..you want the pm..no worries
yet we paying too much to the poor..its the selective elitism..i resent

they got free land..many began with sTOLEN CATTLE
AND SOME GET RICH..OTHERS FAIL..some arnt meanT To grow..others thrive[it all depends on who gets the bailout...plus they hide the numbers into sio many in the know slush funds[even got their own tv shows..lets face it..they own their own party.

ITS THE HYPOCRISY..MORE THAn..Anything
stuff the unions/who build/keep us housed/fed..THEY pay tax TO bailout the farmers,..WHO FEED US SOB STORIES..VIA THEIR MEDIA LEVERAGE.

YOU SHOULD SEE HOW HUGE THESE CHUNKS OF LAND ARE
and how muCH FACILITIES..WE PUT in[rail roads bridges dams PHONE POWER GOVT SERVANTS..Hospitals/DENTISTS

[SORRY ITS JUST how i feel...too many..in the know snouts.]
Posted by one under god, Sunday, 16 February 2014 4:47:45 PM
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Dear Johan (OUG),

We're not talking about people with their noses
in the "troughs," as you put it.

These farmers are successful at what they do. However
they are under unusual circumstances. The drought has
gone on for too long. They are not asking for a "handout."
When the drought passes they will bounce back.

As Mr Abbott stated on TV, "...what we can do is try to
ensure that good businesses that are hit by natural
disaster get the sort of support that they need."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/16/tony-abbott-tour-drought-farming-areas

Mr Prime Minister has decided to do the right thing - and
I admire him for it.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 16 February 2014 5:51:13 PM
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its ok to disagree..thing IS ask yourself..how you even know it
someone has media SKILLS?..when i think of the other news ignored..i see we see only what the media allows US TO SEE.

no..CANT SEE..this
http://www.prisonplanet.com/u-s-cops-have-killed-more-americans-than-iraqi-insurgents.html
http://www.naturalblaze.com/2014/02/well-child-and-vaccine-visits-linked-to.html
http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2014/02/11/tv-propaganda-and-the-mind-control-culture/
http://rinf.com/alt-news/latest-news/gmos-killing-bees-butterflies-birds/
http://www.prisonplanet.com/new-york-city-douses-parks-with-toxic-roundup-hundreds-of-times-annually-is-your-city-doing-the-same-thing.html
http://www.prisonplanet.com/more-toxic-rice-fda-recalls-uncle-bens-infused-rice-after-victims-suffer-skin-rashes-headaches-and-nausea.html
http://www.blacklistednews.com/What_Won%27t_This_Private_Prison_Corporation_Do_To_Turn_a_Profit%3F/32871/0/38/38/Y/M.html

http://grist.org/news/just-a-natural-gas-well-exploding-into-flames-nothing-to-see-here/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=update&utm_campaign=socialflow
http://www.blacklistednews.com/Planned_parenthood%E2%80%99s_cecile_Richards%3A_Women_need_abortions_for_Valentine%E2%80%99s_day/32901/0/38/38/Y/M.html

http://rinf.com/alt-news/latest-news/predator-banks-enter-brave-new-world-epic-scams-public-hasnt-got-clue/

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/mental-illness-is-the-new-normal_022014

http://www.blacklistednews.com/Big_Pharma%27s_Profits_Over_People_and_How_to_Hit_Back/32902/0/38/38/Y/M.html

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/02/14/277058739/1-in-4-americans-think-the-sun-goes-around-the-earth-survey-says

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/kerrys-brother-johns-not-anti-semitic-were-jewish-n30576

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-14/bill-gates-energy-co-files-bankruptcy

http://rinf.com/alt-news/editorials/how-the-credit-card-gravy-train-is-running-over-you/

http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/news/eu-ministers-link-gm-crops-approval-future-elections

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-12/europe-considers-wholesale-savings-confiscation-enforced-redistribution

SURE YOU WILL SEE THIS 50 times..[was trying TO finD THE CLINTON LINK
[while the mnedia was watching him not having seX WITH..aN INTERN..[he waS getting a bill passed that got rid of..key FINANCE oversights]

cant find thE LINK..but its typical..to so things away from media attention..all this..distracts froM..THAT

WATCH MY LEFT HAND
AS THE RIGHT DOES THE TRICK

REDIRECTION/SPIN..HEAR THE SAME Story many times..but never the fiull detaiL..OR OTHER NEWS...oh well enough ..on this topic/LETS AGREE TO DISAGREE.

glad your back..jack.
Posted by one under god, Sunday, 16 February 2014 6:34:26 PM
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Foxy,
Sadly there is usually politics behind these decisions.
Fire, flood or drought are natural events and can affect many businesses apart from farmers.
The decision to provide assistance is usually politically motivated.
Glad the PM has offered to assist but there is no such thing as a free lunch when it comes to politics. Except for politicians of course.
SD
Posted by Shaggy Dog, Sunday, 16 February 2014 6:36:22 PM
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