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Can Australia learn from Israel?

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Dear Steven,

The most important thing to me at least that
Australia can learn from Israel is - water management.

Israel has always faced enormous challenges with regard
to its water supply and it has pioneered National Water
Management and is an innovator in areas such as drip
irrigation, recycling, purifying sewage and of course -
water desalination.

According to Noam Lior, Professor of Mechanical
Engineering and Applied Mechanics at the University of
Pennsylvania,

"Israel's expertise in this
field dates back to the early 20th century when agriculture
was the primary occupation of Palestine (as it was called
then). Agriculture demands vast amounts of water, and there
was an ongoing, organised effort to use technology imported
from Europe to develop water resources, introduce conservation
and treat waste water..."

Australia could benefit for what Israel has learned in this
area as our country also faces enormous challenges with
regard to its water supply.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 30 January 2014 10:51:39 AM
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THE LESSON..of israel..is about ZIONISTS

the mask of zion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaXkzhupiVo&feature=c4-overview&list=UUjNKMHqfoVSuJF739U66_7g
Who wrote annie frankEnsteins book?
http://lovkap.blogspot.co.uk/2011/01/who-wrote-diary-of-anne-frank.html
NEW YORK’S ‘LIBERAL’ MAYOR SPEAKS ~~ AT AIPAC
http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2014/01/25/new-yorks-liberal-mayor-speaks-at-aipac/
New York “City Hall will always be open to AIPAC. When you need me to stand by you in Washington or anywhere, I will answer the call and I’ll answer it happily ’cause that’s my job.”

NOT Anemic kids
http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2014/01/25/401871an-open-letter-to-university-of-maryland-president-dr-wallace-loh/

http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2014/01/27/israeli-engineered-911-gateway-to-war-of-civilizations-between-the-west-and-the-muslim-world/

http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2014/01/27/holocaust-survivors-in-israel-are-now-the-victims/

zion..built the 3 rd/4th reike
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1556520778/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_7?ie=UTF8&psc=1

In 1933 the German Zionist Federation sought Hitler s patronage: "Zionism hopes to be able to win the collaboration even of a government fundamentally hostile to Jews, Boycott propaganda, currently being carried on against Germany, is in essence un-Zionist." Zionism became the only other legal political movement in the Nazi Reich. That same year, the World Zionist Organization (WZO) made the Ha'avara (Transfer) Agreement, undermining the boycott against Nazi Germany. German Jewish emigrants to Palestine had to buy Nazi goods that the WZO sold in the Middle East.

In 1937 the Haganah (later the Israeli army) sent an agent to Berlin. They would provide spy intelligence if the Nazis further eased the monetary regulations for emigrants to Palestine. The Zionist-Revisionist movement (today the ruling Likud Party) set up a detachment at Mussolini's naval academy. He personally reviewed them in 1936. They wanted him to replace Britain as Zionism s patron.

http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Syrian-opposition-Israeli-jets-bomb-missile-launchers-in-Latakia-339465
http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2014/01/27/israel-attacks-syria-missle-facility-in-latakia-again/
http://rinf.com/alt-news/latest-news/us-congress-secretly-approves-sending-small-arms-moderate-syrian-rebels/

http://rinf.com/alt-news/latest-news/summary-israeli-violations-international-law-2013/
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:43:38 AM
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O Sung Wu,

"Ah the old Owen SMG, few moving parts, but utterly reliable, a far superior gun to the F1 that you and I may have carried in SV ?"

I used the Owen a lot and worked on it and the F1 and the F1 lost out, one of its drawbacks was in not having a forward pistol grip; we made up a few pistol grips that clamped around the barrel shroud and these made for a much handier weapon.

A mate of mine, another Armourer, was the armourer on the range for a comparison test between the Owen and the F1, the Owen won hands down but the F1 project still went ahead.
Now almost all the Owens have been sold overseas or destroyed.
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:45:49 AM
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Can Australia learn from Israel?

Anyone can learn from anyone else, but it needs to be selective.

It would obviously be of an advantage to create a system that brings water from the Australian drenched north to its parched south.

I think it will also be an advantage to have nuclear and biological weapon capability, which would deter anyone thinking of invading Australia.

But I wouldn't support becoming a weapon exporter.

And I wouldn't support encouraging a hi-tech industry:

Israel is in the unique situation of being in a constant state of war and having almost no natural resources. Its main resource is its brains, so the choice to concentrate on hi-tech was natural for them, as well as a desperate measure.

Due to the extreme competition, working in high demands very long hours and deadline pressures. It would destroy whatever is left of the relaxed Australian lifestyle. Also, about 99% of the work invested in hi-tech ends in nothing: you may be doing a wonderful job, but because everything changes so quickly, chances are that the other team or the rival company's product will prevail and yours will be thrown in the bin - you will receive a nice cheque and compliments, but you will know that all your efforts have been useless. Some people in the hi-tech industry may work all their life and successfully produce products that work, yet none of their creations was ever marketed successfully or brought any real good to the world, thus they feel they worthless and cheated.

Such tiredness and frustration would make us irritated and rough-edged like the Israelis, so it would not be nice to be around each other. It's just not worth the price: if we were at war, well then we could say as they do, "we have no choice", but we are not!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 30 January 2014 2:11:59 PM
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Good afternoon to you IS MISE...

You know your SMG's my friend ! Having made that perhaps (too hasty) statement; that in my opinion the Owen was superior to the F1, that said, the SAF F1 wasn't a bad SMG overall, it's just when compared to the legendary Owen, well the Owen was so well established and proven wasn't it ?

I've had the opportunity to use the Sterling SMG too (Malaysia-1964/65), and a lot of the older hands condemned it ? Still I wasn't troubled with excessive jamming myself, notwithstanding the very hot, humid/wet conditions, we encountered over there. Even the wooden furniture became excessively sticky, and there wasn't much on the thing !

IS MISE may I enquire, you were an Armourer ? A fascinating duty to be sure ! Thanks mate.
Posted by o sung wu, Thursday, 30 January 2014 2:32:56 PM
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o sung wu,

Yes, I was an Armourer, top job!!
I joined the ARA in 1953 from the CMF, Infantry till mid 1955, then to RAEME till discharged in 1959.
Had a year or so working for myself and then went to the Defence Dept, as a Civilian Armourer, later Fitter, Small Arms Class 1 under the new classifications and finished as a Machine Shop Foreman, in Base Wksp, in 1972 when I got married and moved to the bush.
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 30 January 2014 9:11:13 PM
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