Hi (again) CHRISSGAFF1000...

You can't possibly believe the left, the greens, and all the other fragmented groups with loud, influential voices would ever permit our Aussie military to develop and possess nuclear powered Submarines ? Or a couple of fully endowed nuclear Aircraft Carriers ? Nor would they be given access to our 'green harbours' like Jervis Bay or worse Sydney Harbour ? Any conventional naval vessels, must have the majority compliment serving thereon, as certified 'green' pacifists sailors ?

From What I've heard, they've finally relented somewhat, and allowed SMLE's .303's, with a FULL magazines, to be carried aboard these battle vessels, providing they're not discharged within 500 nautical miles of our shores ? Chris, the word 'nuclear' should be forever struck from our military vernacular !

Dear stevenlmeyer,

Just to get this clear you want us to follow Israel's lead by antagonising our neighbours so we then have the justification of engaging in an arms race which will then drive local r&d to provide local arms industries to export more ingenious ways of killing people?

That is some future you have mapped out for us my friend.

Dear o sung wu,

I think the nuclear option referred to is nuclear armed missiles rather than nuclear powered aircraft carriers. And you might have to explain to me why we would need slow, expensive, aircraft carriers if the perceived threat is Indonesia.

SteeleRedux wrote:

>>Just to get this clear you want us to follow Israel's lead by antagonising our neighbours ....>>

Oh dear you've rumbled me.

This is part of my secret plan to destroy Australia

Of course if if you are a sympathizer of the Muslim cause to obliterate Israel you would be part of the Muslim Cause to make Australia Muslim. Then we would have all the same benefits as Israel's Muslim neighbors.

Dear Josephus,

Avraham Burg, the former Knesset member and speaker was/is
had this to say writing in "The Guardian" newspaper five
years ago:

"We were supposed to be a light onto the nations."

"The Jewish people did not survive for two milennia in
order to pioneer new weaponry, computer security programs
or anti-missile systems. Sadly, sixty years after its creation,
the nation created by the children of the Holocaust,
the greatest human catastrophe of the 20th century, has become
synonymous with ruthless military prowess."

o sung wu,
At least we built the Owen gun before they built the Uzi but for slightly different reasons.