Banjo as the evidence mounts we can see reason for concerns here.
Seems the deaths of two Australians is opening up the whole question.
Both appear to be Australians and Christians at birth.
The Woman called her home Bin Ladens Cave!
Current government moves to halt Australians leaving to fight in these wars is under way.
However looking at the back ground of these two, we may confront problems here at home

Belly,
I share your concerns here, looking deeper into this woman's background and about the citizens of ours when they return home.

ASIO and Fed police are rightly concerned about the conduct of some who return.

Must go out and will comment further later.

Banjo when others take us to task for our views and concerns I wounder.
Do they see the Anglo birth of these latest two? did they understand the extreme militant nature of their teacher recently charged?
Let us not hide our heads and for that matter minds, true danger exists for us here.
Some may think fighting herein the lunatic cause is the right thing.
Some could bring those thoughts home after fighting away.

We should re look at Americas home grown terrorists from the 60,s and 70,s.
And Europe many such as the Barder Minhoff gang.
Ever day more evidence comes just how militant and rude these two from our country and our race became and how badly people we gave shelter to have betrayed us like their teacher
No prophet needed here our country will see a terrorist action here soon we must confront that, we have imported our enemy

Hi there CHRISGAFF1000...

As you say, you do have a FULL plate with all the honorary tasks you perform. Freely working for and on behalf of the many Vets who can't, or unable to speak up for themselves, I think is absolutely amazing, the exceptional 'good' you do ! I really feel so, so, ashamed Chris. Me, 'snug' with my shiny gold card, and with it, in receipt of a 100% disability pension from DVA. Plus a pretty decent police pension which handsomely augments it ? And I occasionally ask myself, why shouldn't I get off my fat arse and do something for someone else for a change ?

Reflecting on days spent in Kapooka, then later Corps training, and then off to tropical Canungra. I was pretty proud of myself in those days ? And after we were repatriated back home, we all crawled about in our civvies, most too ashamed to declare we were back from SV ? My best mate asked if I 'enjoyed' myself while I was away, and did I manage to pick up any 'slope' women while there ?

Sure we 'enjoyed' ourselves, every time we went outside the wire, to beautiful downtown Dat Do, building bridges of understanding with the inhabitants who lived there...And sure, we 'enjoyed' those bloody rashes you get in your groin and back soon after you arrived at the Oz Task Force Base at the (Nui) 'Dat'. Or providing you weren't getting crook taking that rotten Dapsone and Paludrine stuff, that allegedly knocked Malaria, though I reckon worsened my rashes, which still return even now occasionally !

Sorry there Chris, I'm rambling on very badly. Which is disgustingly selfish and self-serving ! Syria, and those who choose to fight there. Gentleman, you've got it all in front of you, believe me ! And should you survive, you'll enjoy a randomly short life ?

o sung wu,

As a tip if you want to do some volunteering, there are plenty of elders who live alone and benefit from someone regularly dropping in for a cup of tea and a chat. Don't forget those living independently and not receiving welfare.

It is away from this thread, but Au is a country that has quickly developed a reputation for ignoring its old. It is commonplace to meet grandparents who have been alienated from grandchildren (the US too). Many more are seen only infrequently if at all by children who appear more interested in inheritance.

Just contact one of your local mainstream churches and go from there. It gets you out of the house as well.

One does not have to be a scholar to appreciate the mental problems our diggers faced on their return home from service in overseas war zones. Even reading some of the posts here by former vets gives a small insight into their problems and they were there at the behest of our government and have our general support.

I shudder to think of the mental condition and attitudes of those that may return from Syria. It is that and the experience and training they receive while there that posses a threat to our community. I wonder if our governments will take much notice or action, or will they just ignore the dangers and hope it will pass.

Of the two that prompted this thread, the male was a muslim convert and the female was always muslim but educated in an Anglican college. Apparently, if media reports are correct, she was a bright and popular girl but later reports indicate that she changed and became radical in her outlook and her actions. It may yet come to light why this happened, but there are many parents who wonder why some young people change. Most young that 'run off the rails' get back on again with the added responsibility of a partner, a job, children, etc. But there seems to be a minority in each generation that do not settle down.

The muslim community seem to have more than their share of those with extreme views that take an anti social attitude. That radical shiek Feiz bloke had no trouble getting large audiences of the young to preach to at Liverpool and I recall the muslim riots of last September which occurred over some stupid video made overseas.

There is genuine concern about the possible conduct of those that return from Syria.