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What to do about Aus citizens going to fight in syria?

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Dear Belly,

I have to say the rhetoric and bile that is getting thrown around now in some of these threads has you appearing in a better light than I remember. I suppose you have not been indulging in the steroids of an Abbott victory like the others.

Anyway niceties aside you say “See as far as my memory will allow I never saw a Jewish terrorist. Not one march/protest here about how we live. No school bus blown up, no Young women murdered for going to school.”

I'm afraid there are plenty of example of Jewish terrorism. “On 27 April 1984, Shin Bet agents arrested 15 people with ties to Gush Emunim. The suspects were taken into custody immediately after placing bombs under six Arab-owned buses in Jerusalem.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Underground

But that is hardly the point. I think if we are going to condemn young Australians for going to fight in conflicts over seas for other allegiances that it should be universal and likewise the responses of our government. If you want to single out a specific religious or ethnic group that this should apply to then you have that right but expect to be called out on it.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Saturday, 18 January 2014 11:25:29 AM
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steelredux: Well it not appear you weren't making a universal statement. Instead you were specifically talking about those who were fighting in Somalia or Syria or just Muslim in general.

Dur!

Steelredux: Perhaps in the future you might be so kind as to preface your pronouncements and pontifications.

eh?

Steelredux: It may serve to lessen the confusion over your true agenda.

No agenda. Is it nice in Syria this time of year, or was it a bit hot for you? ;-) We haven't hear from you usual compatriots for a while either. Are they still over there?

Would you like to comment on the text below. No?

CHAPTER III – CESSATION CLAUSES
A. General
113. Article 1 C of the 1951 Convention provides that:

“This Convention shall cease to apply to any person falling under the terms of section A if:

(1) He has voluntarily re-availed himself of the protection of the country of his nationality; or

(2) Having lost his nationality, he has voluntarily re-acquired it; or

(3) He has acquired a new nationality, and enjoys the protection of the country of his new nationality; or

(4) He has voluntarily re-established himself in the country which he left or outside which he remained owing to fear of persecution; o
Posted by Jayb, Saturday, 18 January 2014 2:12:16 PM
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Unless I am wrong and I have been jayb has been unmasked here as active in very far left groups.
Ahh Should I?
Rather think those Jewish terrorists fought the British in their own land?
Extremes right and left often out do them selves in trying to look like Nazi,s in relation to Israel.
No way I am calling them saints but can we look just briefly at Islamic terrorism?
Another death Australian , this time just maybe with ethnic back ground other than ours.
Nothing meant by that.
May I however remind posters we are told by the bleeding hearts we should let refugees from that part of the world in.
To shelter from war.
While others rush to get involved?
Steel afraid I have news, lifetime ALP voter trying desperately to remind my party/life,s love Australians on all sides think differently than some of them do, in fact some of them never had an original thought in their life.
Just lucky we are confronted by far worse.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 18 January 2014 3:20:51 PM
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Belly: Unless I am wrong and I have been jayb has been unmasked here as active in very far left groups.

No, you're wrong. I don't belong to any groups at all. unless you'd call the R.S.L., V.V.A., & the Men's Shed. Other than that I'll slam/praise all sides if I feel they deserve it. I'll certainly slam the little Terrorists going off to fight in Syria under the guise of Humanitarian help. I just hope they take their Australian Passports/Citizenship off them as a bonus.

I don't know how they let steelie back into the country. I sure ASIO has a good file on him.
Posted by Jayb, Saturday, 18 January 2014 4:28:14 PM
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jayb fair enough I withdraw my comment.
In this issue emotion can not be ignored.
I surely as a left of center person should be on the other side of this debate.
I can never bring myself to do that.
Like it or lump it my lifetime has been my University, live and learn.
Nothing can convince me we have at the least, lost something of great value in taking SOME Muslims in, that being a damaged culture.
I [know this will bring the roof down] honestly see a very big difference in some Muslim races.
Education can be at the leave of the once great and historic Muslim Nations.
Once Muslims lead in education and we gained much from them.
Re writing their Holly book and its intention has blackened them in my view.
And the barley Human/hate filled stupidity flogging a burning car hate driven blindness we see if a single act by a single person upsets the religion and its followers.
Consider my sharp words condemning some in Christianity and try to convince me if those words had been about Islam riots and pure hate would not come from with in the religion of hate some Muslims belong to.
Truth stands no matter how much we may try to disguise it.
Many feel threatened and always will by our imported troubles.
Are we in the name of religion to become a base for wars over seas
A breeding ground for wars based in the end on religions difference within Islamic cultures?
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 19 January 2014 8:50:55 AM
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Jayb,
Be careful we are watching you.
RSL Menshed and VVA are all well known left/right/middle wing groups along with the Fisho's and the Fat Bastards Car Club.
Their declared aim is to disrupt the flow of beer supplies by drinking it faster than it can be produced.
Posted by chrisgaff1000, Sunday, 19 January 2014 9:45:42 AM
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