Don't be silly Susan. Abbott is not hiding anything from "real" Australians only the migrant and refugee cultures. The rest of us "real" Australians get update emails every night.
I run an LNP party cell and I know exactly what is happening on all fronts.
Sorry if you are not in the loop but it really means that you cannot be trusted.

Dear Suse,

First of all - how would we even find out?
These things are now so hush, hush.
But then again if we did find out -
they would of course be labelled - "illegals?"
And the government wouldn't want to talk about them
for "security reasons." :-)

Suseonline - Quote "Australian military ships going willy-nilly into Indonesian waters to push the boats back to Indonesia."

It appears you have more knowledge about these affairs than most, it was stated that the Australian ships turned away from Indonesia before they got to the territorial mark, which would be about 12KM's.

Of course if the navy was not telling the truth please enlighten us as to the truth according to Suseonline.

a legality that has to be adhered to.
Foxy,
How is then that These things are now so hush, hush ? Have you ever heard of legalities that need to be adhered to such as the Nation's security ?
Surely even you would see the point of that.

Abbott calls my right to know what the Australian government does in my name "idle curiosity", belittling my rights, and refers to a "war".

I wonder if I was a German during WW2 whether my interst in what my goverment was doing to Jews would have been considered "idle curiosity" or that I should accept government secrecy about this on the basis of some phoney "war"

If we are invading Indonesia's sovereignty I would like to know it. If we are towing boats back I would like to know it. I have a right to know these things so I can weigh them up against what Indonesia is saying and make my own judgements about the actions of my country. We have no right to turn back boat-people as illegal immigrants because we are a signatory to the UN refugee convention. Indonesia is not.

Quite right Luciferase, , but the truth is not to be spoken on this forum or you will be howled down like other decent posters herein....