Dear Belly,

<<Y you are an strange bloke! how did you ever in this days climate think I was talking about that point.>>

My apologies, but with your extensive involvement in the trade-union over so many years, I could naturally expect this point of Bernardi to be of the highest concern to you.

Belly "They roll from the key board here as free as the wind"

Yes, lurch even slightly to the right and you're a "fascist" "Nazi"'.
Even when you're a classical liberal minarchist (moi).

Bazz "A healthy party should discuss, even argue loudly about policies."

Indeed. But when someone tries, they're denounced as a "ratbag".
I say we need the ratbags! (We'd be bored to death without them).

Yuyutsu "there is no chance for any pro-life campaign"

But there isn't one.

People have varying opinions about the life and death of livestock, foetuses, serial killers, feral cats, lethal viruses, suicidal cancer patients, invading armies, cane toads, mosquitoes.

Plants are alive. Should we never "kill" them, for food, for timber, for wedding decorations?
There is not one "life/death" issue, they are all separate issues.

"The prime minister’s office issued a short statement that said: "Senator Bernardi is a backbencher and his views do not represent the position of the government.”
(Guardian newspaper 6-1-2014)

If the Mad Monk himself is distancing himself from this fundamentalist Christian's views, then I doubt any of Bernardi's archaic views will ever be taken seriously, thank goodness.

I was particularly disgusted re his views on IVF and surrogacy.
I wonder would he have felt that way if he wasn't able to have kids?

Runner, this bozo must be your kindred spirit, with all his similar holy 'views'?
You must be shattered Abbott sacked him from the front bench for his last disgusting comments on bestiality...

Belly, " the type here who slander Labor as Fabian"

The Labor leaders ARE Fabians though. They say so themselves.

Fabian Socialist = 'Progressive' = International Socialist = Communist -Make that cafe latte communist. They are educated middle class elite after all.

Belly, that lot have been pulling the wool over honest hard-working men and women for years. You likely didn't take notice of what your gut has been telling you for years about that crew.

Honestly, just look at their behaviour. Have you ever witnessed such selfishness, greed and living the high life as when they got their hands on the tiller? The Fabians, the self-defined wolves in sheep's clothing (their logo is a black wolf hiding in the skin of a sheep) sure are tricky and from the looks of it they always put themselves and their mates first. So much for workers and what about Julia Whatshername's attitude to age pensioners?

I don't know how far up the Labour Party hierarchy Belly operated
but he is probably typical of many in the party that never get to spend
very much time with the the Fabian group to whom OTB is referring.

I suspect that the Labour party comprises the on the job employees that
are job delegates and local branch members in one part.
The other part is the cafe latte & Chardonnay Fabians and theoretical
socialists from inner Melbourne.

About the only time the twain shall meet is at preselection time.

Am I right Belly ?
I don't think the party can really recover until
that division is removed one way or another.
The problem as I see it is that the general public realises that this
division exists and knows which half it prefers.

So you'll all found some to hate....well done olo....well done.

Planet3