Hi there FOXY and to everyone else who've lost their beloved father...

This would have to be one of the sadist topics I've encountered on this Forum ? I too have lost my Dad, but somehow hearing HASBEEN, yourself, and one or two others lament of their own loss, somehow it has quite an emotional impact on me. So much so, I really don't know quite what the appropriate words might be to add sufficient gravitas to such an emotionally period.

I hope you FOXY, BELLY and HASBEEN, in fact all of you, have a very happy and joyous Christmas, and a brilliant 2014.

Sung Wu.

david..<<..Death is the end.>>

and your proof a poem?

at least other atheist present a case?
http://commonsenseatheism.com/?p=15624
you could may be pick a point

anyhow..i see your poem/raise you a poem
http://new-birth.net/booklet/Wanderer_a4.pdf

Oh, Star of Hope that shines to
Bless the Wanderer through
Life’s Wilderness!

Angels of Love—say
“Are ye come to lead
the Weary Wanderer home?”

<<..That's all, folks.>>

YOUR proof?

<<..We only get one go round.>>

said the minder to the child
[your proof?]

<< Make the most of it.>>

the first truth..i heard

lifes learnings are thyne spirit earnings..
http://www.divinetruth.com/PDF/People/Other/Jane%20Sherwood%20-%20Post%20Mortem%20Journal.pdf

LIFE=energy..CHANGING state
energy cant be created...NOR destroyed
but it can be wasted

thank you for clarifying..your name sung wu
your father is far from disappointed..now.

thank you has become for the thread
heart attacks reveal those who care too much[about what others think]

my fathers biggest joy was friends..and the drink
but he didnt drink..to gert drunk..it was how he overcame lonelyness

jesus rose from the dead to refute judgment..and resection day
let this day be about life eternal..and death..of sin
hate the sinner..not the sin

ahhh men..as children..you believe in satan clause
as adult you believe energy can be destroyed

can someone..put the atheist case
by point...it would be a nice xmass present for you all..to proove dead aint dead..but i cant read fiction..[anymore]..every thought..is energy[your beloved ones are still energy..]

you drain..their energy..with your grief
do try to focus..on/the departed..we help kill them..in ignorance
then let the sleeping dogs lie[that ignorant saying about sums up..what we do to our dead]

suicides especially..go through hell
then..our grieving process..while their spirit....is TIED/for its
FuLL life term..to the dead flesh..[suicides should be immediately be burned..[and high body attached[vain-ego]..its the only way to/free these damaged souls.

the deED..be remembered

remember
dont forget.

one day..you too will wish to/be forgotten
or wish they hadnt added preservative..to the corpse of the dead
at/once tied to it..till ifs final dissolution.[our combined ignorance..is sad/then by karma..it happens to us

you had best say..no preservatives please
and burn/me hide when im dead fred

i recall a haunting..of a docter
being haunted..by the soul..of the spirit..he was di-secting[cutting to pieces]
http://new-birth.net/booklet/30_years_among_the_dead.PDF

[the research/has been done/ignored..long ago]

oh sun..of men..you lived any times before this
and shall live many lives after this..[life =karma]
that we did do to others..we shall see be done..to us

yes we miss them..but they..know you do
its a shame..that you dont do the research

they weighed..the dying..but 4 out of the 6 cases[only]
financed/bought paid for..confirmed mass loss..yet even/that small truth has been spun..look at the research..not the spun..denial/that soothes your immediate/pain..but allows willful/mindless ignorance to continue..

never speak ill of the dead
unless you know for certain..its earned
[the Egyptians embalmed..cause they wanted..that evil captured..for ever..now we know the truth..isnt it time we set their souls free?

im not seeking to hurt/or guilt you
just think..of the departed..recall their greatness
give them/permission..to move on..too many linger in/limbo..just cause..we need to see them..just once more..

but..others are motivated..to do good works..
just so we end up in the same place..

its a big issue
hard to talk about./.or read about[till it gets done..IN..IGNORANCE..to you.]..

our emergency response needs IMMEDIACY..for the spirit/sake
for gods sake..the sudden dead/spirit often..'hangs around its death place..and other..less violent deaths..with-in..its flesh*CAGE..dont speak ill of the dead..it can bind you too it

the collective ignorance is palpable

I WANT YOUR PROOFS
dead=dead.,?

it aint

There is no need to prove death isn't the end. Life after death is simply nonsense. It would serve no purpose. One may believe what nonsense one wants to believe. People believe all sorts of nonsense.

Possibly a belief in life after death came about because of a fear of death. Do lizards and walruses have life after death? If not why not? Can one have thought with no brain? It is a ridiculous belief.

I loved my father dearly and miss him every day. He is not around any more. Those who knew him have memories of him. His descendents carry some of his genes. Eventually all who knew him will be dead, and no one living will have any memory of him. Eventually as with all other species the human race will die out, and no organism will carry his genes.

We can face reality, or we can deny it. It makes no difference to reality.

One way to deny reality is to believe in life after death.

corrective..action*

let this day be..about life eternal..
life wrought of the wholly spirit
and death..of sin

hate the sin..not the sinner
all spirits are on alert
it begins in the east

david..<<..Possibly a belief in life..after death came about because of a fear of death.>>

says one who/clearly..has dismissed signs of haunting

<<..Do lizards and walruses have life after death?>>

the only self aware..of the beast's are those who have tasted
human-like self awareness..[many cats..fewer dogs..mostly birds

thats why the trials to/weight the souls of dogs failed
they hadnt developed [evolved]..their souls..[yet][but because of their human trauma..never the less gainsaid human incarceration [sorry incarnation]..same same

<<..>>If not why not?..>>
could you fly..before you mastered to walk?
does the mastery..OF DRIVING A MECHANICAL CONVERYANCE..[auto]
PREPARE YOU..OR QUALIFY YOU TO..FLY THE SHUTTLE..or a boing?

DAMM..capzs

<<..Can one have thought with no brai>>

yes..nota high one..but yes[its basic food/not food
hunger/..eat full..poop..light dark warm cold
they arnt great conversationalists

nakes and most cats..are simply..driven..by external's
[lower spirit/herd-mind]
but its thought

<<....It is a ridiculous belief..>>

you only have beliefs because your awareness has reached higher..thinking..to where you are almost self aware enough..to/be aware of other..thus able to..ridicule their belief..yet still double-think thy own

merry festivus
next years..is not a year to/be alone
especially..indis-belief...the inquisition..begins...
unless we ask first...what beliefs will i happily die for...

while any change..in..its time is fine..
god hates enforced change upon anyone.

but im ready to..change..just not sure into what..just yet.