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Throwing good money after bad

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Posted by jaxon, Friday, 27 December 2013 7:24:12 PM
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onthebeach,
I wonder where they are building these $450,000 houses? Must be in the city / town centers as a reasonable 3 Bed house can be built for $200,000 so the land prices must be dearer than the house.
Posted by Josephus, Saturday, 28 December 2013 7:19:37 PM
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Onthebeach,
I am sorry your thread hasn't picked up the traction it should because indigenous housing or the funding around it is primarily the main waste of public money.
Indigenous education and training comes second and health third in my books.
All are bottomless pits of public money waste.
The indigenous population would be lucky to contribute one percent of the countries revenue base but suck enormous floods of cash out.
Most of it is wasted.
There is no profit in indigenous housing. Not even on the long term capitalization process because repair and maintenance costs outweigh the capital growth in the first place.
You cannot educate or train a brain that does not want to be educated or trained and has no concept of a work ethic.
More than half of the health problems of indigenous people are SIW "self inflicted wounds" and throwing money at these people who are unwilling to change their lifestyles is wasting money.

Josephus
The average cost of a three bed home built in Aurukun or Bamaga is closer to 1,000,000 dollars and they get to rent them for 30 dollars a week.
In New Marpoon at the moment they are building 7 bedroom houses for families that have full social security support by pay a minimal amount in rent.
Posted by chrisgaff1000, Sunday, 29 December 2013 4:47:03 PM
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No Josephus, it's just that the contractors who build these home gouge the tax payer and the government let's them get away with it. School halls ongoing.

That, and the extreme freight to get materials there.

In fact, I know a guy who gets paid in excess of three Gand a week to repair these homes.

He starts on one and by the time he gets to number twelve, number one has been trashed again.

Throw them out on the street as nothing and no amount of funding will change their ways.
Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 9:34:07 AM
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In many places, states and territories, continues the struggle for equality of opportunity and responsibility.

This requires ongoing effort to force standard requirements upon abusive corporate trust bodies who as title-holder for the land are the real owners of these lands and houses.

Start with ending Commonwealth exemption, force them to issue standard tenancy leases to tenants - starting with anyone who wants a lease.

Even where acknowledged "Traditional Owner" tenants ask for them, these outside thus under standard legislation unaccountable bandits refuse them, because the exemptions let them...

They do this because they know providing leases, gives people rights.

Until end fraudulent behavior provided through either laziness or ignorant "cultural sympathy" nothing improves..

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Posted by polpak, Sunday, 5 January 2014 2:54:00 PM
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Fraud is fraud no matter the perpetrator, but the truth is where there are political sensitivities there is not always equal action under the law.

To use a comparison, one only has to look at the rorting of entitlements by some politicians and the corruption at the worst end of this scenario, such as by Obeid, MacDonald and their ilk. Peter Slipper is in Court for rorting travel and transport expenses while other parliamentarians just pay it back and go on as before. Why did the DPP only charge Slipper when the evidence of rorting by others was in the public domain? Power? I have no sympathy for Slipper, he has been a serial rorter by all accounts, but if you charge one you charge all. It is politically motivated.

Or look at corporate corruption and greed which sometimes the taxpayer ends up funding via bailouts etc for organisations who are too-big-to-fail and throw in political donations and the old boys/girls network and very little justice in the end.

Sometimes there is justice sometimes there is not, sometimes there is only political expedience and patronage.
Posted by pelican, Tuesday, 14 January 2014 8:48:57 AM
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