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I fear the lucky country ship has sailed and we've missed the boat.
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Posted by Pericles, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 2:23:20 PM
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Any clues for us, chrisgaff1000?
Pericles, Plenty ! Just learn how to see them. Posted by individual, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 5:19:21 PM
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<The Eureka legacy
The Eureka rebellion is considered by some historians to be the birthplace of Australian democracy. It is the only Australian example of armed rebellion leading to reform of unfair laws. The Southern Cross flag has been used as a symbol of protest by organisations and individuals at both ends of the political spectrum.> http://australia.gov.au/about-australia/australian-story/eureka-stockade Recently Australians tipped out the rubbish in Canberra for similar reasons and more. Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 5:54:05 PM
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Eureka was a failure, it was a pointless waste of 30 lives,democracy and responsible government were on the way anyway and it was the mass political action which had the authorities rattled.
Violence makes the system stronger and the system can absorb or buy out any dissenting position which plays by the rules, the Police intelligence reports leading up to Eureka stated that the best case scenario for the system was a stand up fight, if the rebels had taken to the bush and waged a hit and run guerrilla war the military would have been compelled to withdraw to Port Phillip or face annihilation . Lalor & Co played by the rules and lost, that's the limit of democracy and it's why the Taliban won in Afghanistan and why Occupy failed in New York. Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 7:37:22 PM
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Pericles, you are absolutely correct "no civilian (in England) was provided with arms. No rifles, no pistols, no hand grenades. Nothing."
But the evidence has never prevented Constable Clod from securing a conviction. If you don't have the evidence you simply manufacture it, is that not so Constable Clod? "Workers have privileges and expectations that can be taken away when and if their work does not come up to the standard the employer requires. A worker should be paid on the basis of his production and profit for the 'boss' not because he has social or economic needs." The begging bowl mentality, straight out of the 19th century, Dickens Oliver Twist stuff. No sense of a modern society at all. Constable Clod from your post, I see you as a Mr. Bumble character. When you were in the "Force", as you claim, were you paid by your "production" ie the number of convictions? If so you must have gone hungry quite often. LOL. Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 5 December 2013 5:58:57 AM
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You're not making sense again, Paul1405.
>>But the evidence has never prevented Constable Clod from securing a conviction. If you don't have the evidence you simply manufacture it, is that not so Constable Clod? << At a guess, I'd say this was a response to those voices in your head, am I right? 'Cos I fail to see its relevance to anything here. >>When you were in the "Force", as you claim, were you paid by your "production" ie the number of convictions?<< It's that voice of yours again. Have a good day. Stay out of direct sunlight if you can. Posted by Pericles, Thursday, 5 December 2013 8:49:08 AM
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>>Suseonline i might remind you that Churchill gave every citizen in England a 303 rifle and two clips of ammunition for the specific purpose of killing German if they invaded England.<<
.303s were issued to the Home Guard. Outside this and other near-military organizations, no civilian was provided with arms. No rifles, no pistols, no hand grenades. Nothing.
I do wonder, quietly, what motivates people to invent silly, easily-checked stuff like this. It happens so frequently.
Any clues for us, chrisgaff1000?