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Labor truth stranger than fiction.

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Belly I'm talking fact, not opinion. The countries of the EU are waking up to the fact that they have been conned with the alternate power industry, & are backing out. Carbon credit script is the cheapest toilet paper in Europe. How your parties leaders have not seen this is a bit of a mystery.

Foxy my sweet, the NDIS & Gonski are Gillard's revenge. She knew she was gone, so introduced these pipe dream "welfare" scams that no country on earth can afford, to get us, who didn't want her, & Abbott who she knew was about to get the job, or Rudd, if by some miracle he won the election.

Anyone who can't see she did this to make it hard for the next government is blind because they have their eyes tight shut. The lady may not be very capable of effective management, but is rat cunning.

She has placed those who followed her in the position of having to say no, & have every bleeding heart after them, or squib it, & have the country broke like another Greece with all government larges slashed.

Add to this mess the NBN fiasco, & it could be our grandkids will still be paying for this ladies vicious last gestures, & a host of disabled will have to cry the dollar signs of false hope out of their eyes.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 21 November 2013 6:08:00 PM
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Foxy,
Why should I (with perfect genes and perfect kids) be required to spend my money, that I earn with my skills, on some one else kid from bad genes that will cost for the totality of its life.
Every day Downs Syndrome kids are being born from Downs Syndrome parents and I am to be made responsible for this.
Before kids are allowed to be born parents should be required to have a genes evaluation and ant suspect birth prevented by law.
Quote "It will make an additional 50,000 people with disabilities and their families eligible for support, creating up to 25,000 jobs in the disability sector."
25,000 non productive jobs that a couple of hundred thousand productive workers are going to have to pay for.
We need to reduce the number of disability pensioners not increase the numbers.
Did you know that indigenous obesity is a registered disability and organizations like Wuchopperen thrive on government money to service these disabilities ?
Posted by chrisgaff1000, Thursday, 21 November 2013 7:28:52 PM
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Too right Chris.

My son has just had an accident, however, he has income protection, trauma, TPD and life insurance. He is 22.

Now sure, if not for all these insurances he could most likely afford the HSV he wants, or perhaps the new jet ski.

The point is, that if you are of working age, and fully employed, then become disabled and don't have adequate insurance then I'm afraid that's a risk you choose to take.

It's called makimg choices.

The tax payer should not be paying your way, other than the VERY VERY basics, and I do mean BASICS!

Lexi.....or they've been settled in PNG. Or maybe, those that have
been allowed to stay are actually employed, and have
already bought their homes.

If they have bought their homes, that would suggest they were in fact, economic refugees in the first place, otherwise, how on earth could they get a job, unskilled, then save enough for a deposit on a home?

Just admit it, charity DOES NOT START AT HOME. Not our home, anyway!

Hasbeen, we were saying for a year or so before the election that she was only implementing these dreams to make life difficult for this following her. She knew she was a dead duck.
Posted by rehctub, Thursday, 21 November 2013 7:48:08 PM
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Dear rehctub,

How on earth could they afford to buy a home?
They must therefore be economic refugees?

I'm so glad you asked.

The following link is the story of Prof. Al Muderis,
which I originally read in the November 2013 issue
of The Australian Woman's Weekly. Dr Muderis had to flee
Iraq after he refused Saddam's regime brutal orders to
surgically remove the ears of soldiers who escaped from
the army. Dr Muderis ended up on a flimsy wooden boat
heading to his new home, Australia. He ended up in a
detention centre where the then Immigration Minister,
Phillip Ruddick told Prof. Muderis that his qualifications
would not be recognised in this country. When asked
today what would Dr Muderis say to Mr Ruddick, Prof.
Muderis smiled and replied that he say, "Lets chat, Mate,"
or words to that effect. Prof. Muderis today is a leading
surgeon and expert in new technology for prosthetics
and the work he does is truly amazing for this extraordinary
man. He re-studied and has contributed so much to people
without limbs both in this country and internationally.
His wife is also a GP and they both worked hard and achieved,
and continue to give so much to us all.
It's a shame that stories like these aren't published more
often in the media. Instead all we hear is negativity about
asylum seekers - for political gain.

http://www.almuderis.com.au/news/222-from-penniless-prisoner-to-bionic-surgeon

And

http://www.almuderis.com.au/about-us/assoc-prof-al-muderis
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 21 November 2013 9:32:18 PM
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Dear Chris and rehctub,

I don't believe in the ideology of greed, filled by an
unbridled commitment to individualism. It leaves no room
for social equity, compassion or the idea of an
egalitarian society.

I understand that there are people who believe
that people,
in their view, either sink or swim. And if they sink, well
that's too bad. Because according to these people, welfare is
not good for business. Obviously the inevitable expansion of
capital (money) with its attendant social inequality and
natural destruction for them brooks no interference and
allows for no moral judgements.

To each his/her own.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 21 November 2013 9:52:23 PM
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It is my belief that the vast majority of Australians would be happy to pay a little - and, in doing so, make a small sacrifice - in order to make the world a better place for ourselves, for others around us and for our future. The trouble is not that we are greedy or selfish - it's that we're being gouged left, right and centre for causes that have not been explained to us, that do not appear to affect us and that do not address the immediate need to put food on our tables and roofs over our heads.

The Carbon Tax is one example. My most recent gas and electricity bills recorded my lowest usage ever, but the bills were the most expensive I've had yet. Unfortunately, I do not receive any of the benefits that our former PM assured us would compensate for this, so I'm not one of the many who would (apparently) be better off under the scheme. I'd be fine with this, except that there's little more I can do to reduce my energy usage further without seriously compromising my quality of life.

The NDIS is a further example. I'm happy to pay if it means that, should I find myself in need of a helping hand, I'll receive it. I'm also happy to pay if it means that those around me will be better off.

Asylum seekers, carbon taxes, NDIS, paid parental leave ... each on its own is fine for me - but there's a limit to what I can continue paying without wondering what I get in return for the taxes I pay. It's not greed - it's just a sense that I work harder than ever before and don't seem to be reaping the rewards.
Posted by Otokonoko, Thursday, 21 November 2013 10:30:04 PM
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