Dear Shadow Minister,

While we can all appreciate your loyalty to the
Party you serve and the Prime Minister you seem
to so admire and whose praises you consistently sing
on this forum - many people's perceptions differ a
great deal from the way you view things.

As the link below states -
"Abbott's failure to proactively defuse this situation
epitomises his approach with Indonesia."

"On both asylum seekers Abbott and the Coalition have
consistently refused to heed Indonesia's objections to
turning back boats..." And the other errors and blunders
made by Mr Abbott as listed in the following link -
paint a totally different picture to the one you're
presenting

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-21/mcrae-indonesian/5107232

"Competence" is not a word that anyone apart from supporters
such as yourself and other die-hards use in regards to Mr Abbott
and his team. We can only hope that things will improve
as time goes on - although none of us are holding our breaths.

Well said Foxy.
A question arises every day here, it will not be answered but could keep ten Doctors of Mental health busy for a life time.
Labor from both sides is told it sold out its followers.
By filling the ground Liberals left on their long march to the right.
So why do some continue to call us *leftists*
Why can most of us see the polls as they are but not conservatives.
It is my view that word *CONSERVATIVE* best describes todays Liberals and the pup following waiting its chance to bite its master the National party.
I think *true* Conservative hold the Liberals only for a while, Liberalism will return, as Conservatives kick in the party,s walls.
and find they are unwanted
But back to the truth, how can SM link us with his party,s new found home? the Tea Party?

Foxy,

The date is the 28th, why are you linking to an article from the 21st when the issue was just surfacing, and when the left whingers were all calling for Abbott to abandon all the accepted protocols and give Indonesia everything it was asking for, and in doing so compromise its intelligence operations. It is no wonder that every Labor politician is tagged as incompetent.

As I said, calm heads are needed not Labor talking heads, from the Green Tea party.

Dear Shadow Minister,

I linked to the kindest article I could find
on Mr Abbott. The later ones are quite scathing.
But you know that. Also as I stated earlier you
guys have to stop blaming other for your own
incompetence. You're not longer in oppostion -
it's now your responsibility to govern and give
us more than lies, slogans, secrets, and rhetoric.
And telling us how "adult" you are. Don't say it -
be adult!

Dear Belly,

Don't take any serious notice of Shadow Minister.
He's only doing his job on this forum.
If he's at all intelligent - what he thinks privately
on many issues is probably a different matter all together.
I quite enjoy inter-acting with him because even though
we rarely agree - he's always been a gentlemen - and that's
not a common quality on this forum.

Foxy, "he's always been a gentlemen - and that's not a common quality on this forum'

LOL, the gall and lack of insight of the very poster who posted this rude and spiteful remark earlier:

<'Dear runner,

You're beginning to give us the impression that
you're threatened by women being in power.
Was your mum a strong disciplinarian and not
very loving? That would explain things. And are
you hen-pecked by your wife?'>
Foxy, Monday, 25 November 2013 6:15:33 PM

and unabashed posted this 'apology' later to continue her brazen and unprovoked 'misogyny' attack, after being criticised (elsewhere) for her post:

<..I was merely being curious as to why you seem
so anti-women in some of your posts is all.
Because your anti-women references are always
draped in vague and sweeping concepts. I thought
perhaps this was as a result of a family environment
which may have been cold, aloof and disciplinarian..>
Foxy, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 6:31:21 PM