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Trial by media raises it's ugly head again

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With the descicion to drop charges on 'Dr Death', as he was so often referred to by the media, I would suggest that the media coverage had a huge influence in the final descicion to let him off.

With Dr Patel and Dennis Furguson, both saved to some extent by the media, one has to wonder if young Daniels accuser can receive a fair trial.

Perhaps it's time the media faced trial, charged with interference and the leaking of sensitive information.

Anything in the name of selling papers/electronic media space.

It appears they are a law to themselves.
Posted by rehctub, Saturday, 16 November 2013 6:08:53 AM
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Rechtub! while it appears the costs not the case stopped prosecution are you fair dinkum?
Remember the slanging that waster of my party blood Gillard got?
I feel only if we disagree with *reported news* do some see wrong in the Medea.
You baffle me? was in your view reporting of the whistle blowers words in this case a Medea beat up?
Was it the evidence, the fraud in getting the job, do you think we should not discus cases?
That papers should not be able to report on trials.
End my confusion what did the Medea get wrong?
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 17 November 2013 6:09:30 AM
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Belly, where in this country could we POSSIBLY find a jury bench that has not formed an opinion, or at least been influenced on the case in some way, by the barrage of accusations about this bloke from the media.

Furthermore, with the extent of media coverage the case has received, do you honestly think he could receive a fair, unbiased trial. Or do you just assume he is guilty.

Now if you do think he is guilty, how did you find out about the case, because like 99.9% of the general public, I didn't even know of the guy.

Did you!

I suggest you watch young Daniels case, as the media have all but condemned that guy.

Now while I'm not defending him, I, again like 99.9% of the public didnt even know he existed until the media splashed his face and name all over the place, to the extent whereby I doubt he could walk down the street without being abused.

How does he receive a fair trial?

At the end of the day, the media are there to present news, based on facts, not on heresy.

Their role is not to influence opinions, which is often what they do with comments and headlines like 'Doctor Death'.
Posted by rehctub, Sunday, 17 November 2013 8:49:13 AM
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There role is not to influecce opinions. Facts not BS. [ Mr Murdock ]
Posted by 579, Sunday, 17 November 2013 10:04:08 AM
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It has been the wrong people in the dock over Patel's incompetence, right from the start.

Remember the first inquiry? It was closed down damn quickly, when it was realised the commissioner was after the heads of the hospital management. Couldn't have that, now could we, the fault could have been reflected right up the line of bureaucrats in the Health Dept.

It was the hospital management's choice to keep the incompetent Patel on staff, & in fact promote him, when any manager must have known he was a bloody awful doctor. They also knew, his high operation rate was helping the hospital with high income from the taxpayer.

The management were the people charged with delivery of health outcomes, but they were more interested with income outcomes.

Patel is just another arrogant opinionated lousy doctor. Plenty of them around. One of them left me with a damaged knee, & another would probably have killed me, given a bit of time. We employ managers to oversee the doctors, & stop the bad ones, before they do much damage. When the managers don't do their job properly, due to incompetence, or another agenda, they are the ones who should be in the dock.

Continued.
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 17 November 2013 10:50:25 AM
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Continued.

In fact the whole fiasco can be laid squarely at the feet of Wayne Goss, as can the inefficient current Ambulance service.

Goss hated the idea of citizens of a district, [particularly National Party members in the bush after years of Joh rule], running local hospitals as a local hospital board. In the same way he hated locally run ambulance services.

It was Goss that instituted Brisbane metropolitan control of all hospitals, & promoted a bunch of typical bureaucrats to run the things. Yes that's right, bureaucrats. As if they could run anything, except late for work. Notice a similarity here with the current ambulance service wows?

So now you have bureaucrats, answering to Brisbane head office, replacing local citizens, answering to the local citizens.

Can anyone really believe that a screw up like Patel could have lasted more than a few weeks, when local hospital board members could not walk down the street without being accosted by unhappy patients or their family?

Ok, so we probably can't put Goss in prison for being an ideologically driven fool I don't suppose, but those in management of Bundaberg hospital at the time sure should be.
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 17 November 2013 10:50:41 AM
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my point is, why is it the media can continually get away with interfering with cases, to a point whereby suspects are finding it harder and harder to receive a fair trial.

Now while I understand the case has been dropped due to cost blow outs, the fact is that once too much evidence has been revealed, it becomes much harder, and therefore more costly, to gain a conviction, hence the desciccion to drop the charges.

No point pissing our money into a fan, so as to speak.

I don't have a problem with the media reporting news, but leave the sensitive information until after the trial, as it then becomes news, rather than opinions, or money making tools.

Because after all, the media is a very powerful, money making, tool.
Posted by rehctub, Monday, 18 November 2013 5:26:00 AM
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Rechtub sorry mate not buying it.
But in all honesty I do not blame you.
See you seem so uninformed about him and the long list of evidence that you may need to read more.
Deaths attributed to him, *as reported in the press* and evidence given *by heroic Nurses who tried to stop him butchering*
HURTS!
What do you want? not reporting on such cases? do you think for existence we should not be informed of the current anti Biker raids across Australia?
579 mate! yes Murdock is filth, that praises him he is far worse, but this issue needs your help, it is about free speech.
And our RIGHT TO KNOW.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 18 November 2013 6:57:02 AM
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Patel us forged and fraudulent documents to get the job he had and then he killed and maimed people people. All the media did was alert the public to the monst5er he was.
Legal technicalities and the closing of medical ranks see him walk away a free man. Bot then he is an Indian.
Posted by chrisgaff1000, Monday, 18 November 2013 10:59:14 AM
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chriss gaff no offense mate!
But I agree with every word.
In truth not sure what Rechtub finds wrong with that.
And as I am on the record as supporting you, I am not kidding, if this bloke is EVER able to practice medicine in any part of the world the system is wrong, so wrong we may as well install legal vigilantism.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 18 November 2013 1:37:13 PM
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....In truth not sure what Rechtub finds wrong with that.

What I find wrong with that is that the victims and their families have been denied their justice.

To many of them, all he gets is his licence to practice taken away, maybe!

As far as the media not influencing the case, do you honestly think calling someone Doctor Death is not accusing them of being guilty, trial by media style.
Posted by rehctub, Monday, 18 November 2013 2:56:34 PM
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standards have been steadily dropping in nursing and medicine with people receiving training oversees. Inconvenient fact.
Posted by runner, Monday, 18 November 2013 3:02:16 PM
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....standards have been steadily dropping in nursing and medicine with people receiving training oversees. Inconvenient fact.

Too right Runner, just too many snouts in the trough these days, the tax dollar simply does not stretch far enough.

To think this chain of events occurred prior to K Rudds illegals blow out, simply means more of the same, only worse.

Comforting thought as I work and pay taxes.

In fact, my wife and I have paid top medical insurance for almost 25 years, about $700 per month now and our son has to have an op, and we are told we have to pay $1000.

A Shameful disgrace!
Posted by rehctub, Monday, 18 November 2013 7:07:56 PM
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rehctub,
Firstly Patel was and is guilty it is simply that the system cannot convict him and therefore he has earned the title of "Dr.Death"

On your point of Medical Insurance no one has ever been able to explain to me why you simply cannot insure health cover for all under the one policy and not pay a cent in the case of an incident after all it is only a form of gambling.
Posted by chrisgaff1000, Monday, 18 November 2013 10:42:46 PM
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Chris.....Firstly Patel was and is guilty it is simply that the system cannot convict him and therefore he has earned the title of "Dr.Death"

Not really, as he was tagged as Dr Death from the start, even before any charges were considered.

As for private health insurance, we were conned, told it would be beneficial, then shafted?

As I say, our tax dollars just can't cope any more.

Where to from here?
Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 8:19:55 PM
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