OTB,

These left whingers are not very bright. When they don't have Labor's talking heads giving continuous commentary, they are put in the uncomfortable position of having to try and think for themselves.

Getting all the information on illegal boat arrivals at the end of the week puts a strain on their ability to add, or to determine that the 5 boats arriving with 340 illegals in October 2013 is about 1/10th of those arriving in July 2013, and that Abbott is competently keeping his promise to Australia.

otb,

Where is your logic. How does asking for transparency
and accountability from our current government
translate into not showing concern about asylum
seekers. That's quite a stretch even for you.
And as a voter and a citizen of this country I am
quite entitled to criticize the actions of our
government. It's called freedom of speech and is part and
parcel of a democratic tradition. Freedom of speech is
a safeguard against unjust rule. People should be free
to criticize the laws of their community and the
policies of their government. That's not "sledging"
and a government is less likely to impose unjust laws
on people who can openly criticize their decisions.

Without freedom of speech, people cannot have complete
political freedom. That's why gagging Ministers should be
a concern to us all.

Foxy, I can see what otb is on about, sorry you cannot.

Two posts above are amusing if nothing else.
Gillards knifing of Rudd was a team/right faction effort.
History will not ignore once she got the job, holding it for another, she could not win a raffle.
Rudd,s time has come he had no choice he had to go.
But I suspect he will be better treated by history than, yes truly think it Tiny Target Tony Abbott.

Dear Bazz,

I understand only too well what otb is all about.
Hence my obligation to correct him.
He twists and manipulates and attributes things
to posters and makes assumptions about them
that are totally wrong. He is a cyber bully, and
a nasty piece of work. And I'm not the only one
who thinks so on this forum and when challenged he
ducks for cover. A charming man - you may well think
I and others don't!

Foxy,
You seem to miss one very salient point.
The government was elected to govern, and by a reasonable majority.
Therefore they may govern as they see fit.
If you don't like the way they govern you have the right to reject them at the next federal election.
What a government might do may seem immoral to you but nevertheless they are the government elected by the people to govern.