Joke of the week:

"[clutter up..the thread with...useless troll babble..
opinion..is respected..but facts talk louder.
but..i see neither."

Thank God there are not two under gods.

Danielle....thats some interesting stuff
there has been an..ongoing attack..against the institution..
of marred rage..but at..it spirit essentials..it talks of status changes

master/thinker/boss/head
body..servant/servitude/gratitude

jesus serves god
as god serves us all
buyt the one served=the wife
[and as previously-posted..a good marriage
means each mutually dedicated..to the well being..of other..[and fertility..merely..shares the gift.]

but then..gays/woman/atheist[acting as agents..of the state]
say..just the name..is great mate[but not beyond debait]

by the state..recognition..of it
that sets us..up..into..delusion..illusion..
statehood abuses and adenda's..like to minimize..its spirit meaning

and expand their areas..of total-control
ie under law..a beggar..is presumed..to..know
for what he begs..if you beg to be a..wife..[servant]..or want to.entrap one...[a slave]..you..use guile..and govt licence

[ie licence=permission..TO_DO..
that,..which..OTHERWISE..[sans licence]..would be unlawful*

you just gotta love how govt subverted..the living
into serving the..dead coorperate person..and dead state-hoods..ie creating..;legal-persons..under the act][iesubhuman..whos only real existence,,is on*..paper license[in word]..

authorized means by author
[ie simply..a signed/order]//legal[not lawfull..PERMISSION..todo
something..he would otherwisde be doing unlawfully

this is satans realm[get it?]

recall what i said re MAKING..your mark[signing..ANYTHING]]
all writing is ONLY an..offer..

*TILL ITS SIGNED..it then..become's as lawfull promise[con-tract] jurisdictional/justifiable....*under civil law

the written authority..[warrant..licence]
ie,,is merely..the authors/AUTHER_ISATION..
they can only order you..if your a person/under the act..
using..their proof..is..egzactly..what gives..them..troll/meisters-masters]..supreem control..over you..and EVERYTHING..you ARE permitted..BY THEM..todo

but [via the lie of contractual-begger authority]
you signed away your freedoms..simply by applying..in..to
their world..of paper-forms[your being enslaved..by forms..

they own/con-troll..
the permissions..thus own/control..you

[now you..comprehend..the why..of the trolls]

for whom..the belt tolls

Some years ago I had a friend with Klienfelter ( xxy chromosomes); he was gay and I came to know quite a lot of his gay friends. As a woman, I can assure everyone that it is innate, not acquired. With straight men, there is the male gaze and a certain natural frisson between men and women. With gay men, this does not remotely exist, nor did I feel the slightest attraction to any of them.

There is also the deep emotional level with gays who are involved, which cannot be denied by straight people.

We are aware of the situation in gaol, where men abuse other men sexually. The abusers are straight.

Danielle, "As a woman, I can assure everyone that it is innate, not acquired. With straight men, there is the male gaze and a certain natural frisson between men and women. With gay men, this does not remotely exist, nor did I feel the slightest attraction to any of them."

Where does bisexual sex fit into it and how come some change as it were, and sometimes change back again?

What gaze and vibes to detect a bisexual?

- It would be very valuable information for young heterosexual women. The risk of very serious diseases being so high from those whose partners have had anal sex, and those partners could have someone in their long line of sexual partners who has introduced the risks through gay sex.

While you can split the population into 'gays' and 'straights', all determined by birth as you believe, there is obvious blurring somewhere from the increasing number of women with AIDS. It is not only young women either, mature women are also affected.

Why is it the argument about effeminate males supposedly born homosexual wanting marriage? When what I have witnessed is mostly 18 - 50 year old females and hoary middle aged males wanting to marry. It has nothing to do with infant orientation but willful decision after unhappy heterosexual relationships.

onthebeach,

You make valid comments. I can't make any opinions about bisexuals; they were certainly not accepted by the gays I knew. Perhaps they are narcissists who don't care from where they get "pleasure" ... any orifice and a pulse. Do bisexuals have strong emotional attachments?

Incidentally, the gay community is not uniform, but has a variety of sub-groups, many of whom despise other gays. The hate mail my klienfelter friend received was from other gays. Some gays do not like sex-change operations and others do. Some detest certain practices. Sub-groups are sharply and often viralently opposed; ... and the divisions continue.

Heterosexuals pair up for a variety of reasons, not necessarily sexual. Indeed, many marry for other reasons than "love" and no-one seems to find this a problem. It will be interesting to see if homosexuals also follow the pattern of heterosexuals.

One thing I did notice, indeed raised by my gay friend, that unattached homosexuals are extremely promiscuous and there was often little interest in the other, but sex.