Paul,

It took the coalition more than a year in 1996 to stop the budget hemorrhaging and about 10 years to pay back the debt. This time Juliar and Dudd made Hawke and Keating, who in their time left a record debt, look fiscally responsible.

Labor has left the economy in the worst state in decades, and while the coalition are miles better than labor, they cannot perform miracles.

As for Miranda, considering the latest NSW polls, the coalition is still way ahead so while the voters in Miranda can be expected to be angry about MP Graham Annersley walking away mid term, I wouldn't read too much into it. As they say, "a single swallow does not a summer make."

As for the "insult" I was just giving some friendly advice to review what you have written before posting, as carelessness can give the impression that you should be wearing a tin hat and tilting at windmills.

PS. a plum is a fruit that can be picked, and a plumb is a vertical measuring device.

SM you are quite right, not the reason that lives only in your head but the truth we will rise again.
And as we do your team falls, federal polls pointing to this will be seen mid next year.
By mid the one after any by election will be more than likely a loss for your team.
Being honest my views on Tasmania are gloomy the chances for the greens controlled team down there are about the same as me winning the lottery.
Without holding a ticket.
SA? maybe the time before an election, balanced with the unfolding lies and total rottenness in your team can save us.
SM do you in my post see a truth?
I know the ALP knows I know you know at some level the greens contamination of this c0ountrys politics is on the way out.

Philip1405;
For goodness sake stop being so silly.
Have you never heard about how long it takes a 1 million ton tanker to
change course ?

It is very much like that with the economy

I hope you can see what I am saying to you. It is really very simple.
If you still don't understand, let me know and I will try again.

Foxy, the phrases and words you used in your post are rather inexact.

For instance you speak about pollution, eg;

In general, the most industrialised nations are
now actively trying to limit the effects of pollution,

Now that is very true, but it would be more accurate to your intention
to say CO2 rather than pollution.
Many countries have legislation about pollution but do not include co2.

CO2 is not a pollutant and similarly co2 is not carbon which is quite
a difference substance.

The effect of the way you use the language is to condemn by association.
In any other discussion this would be considered unfair or dishonest.

Did you hear the words coming out of Hockey's mouth at yesterday's presser?

"The credit rating is what matters."

Well, golly gee.

Here's how works - straight out of dodgy LNP 101

"Never mind the fact that we've been yodelling about debt for the last 6 years - and dismissing healthy credit ratings...now that we've conned our way into govt, we'll adopt the contrary position, while simultaneously blaming Labor for any future debt."

And all the nongs who voted for us will ably assist us on the blogs.

It's a win win all round.

(Let's hope they also ignore our blatantly fascist tendencies.)"

Now Poirot, you are trying to be as silly as Philip1405.