Thanks Saltpetre and Belly. You are both right of course.
I am probably too over sensitive on the subject, having known some rape victims personally.
Of course it is dreadful to be suspected of a crime you didn't commit, such as rape.
It is one reason why I do not support the death penalty...in the case of wrongful conviction.

However, what upsets me is when we are discussing awful crimes such as rape, and some posters insist on carrying on about the few women who nastily do try to wrongly convict a man for rape.

It suggests to me that we still have a culture where we blame the victims .
And no crime is more notorious for trying to blame the victim than the crime of rape...

Dear Suse,

Beautifully argued.

The tender, romantic, and passionate intimacies of men
and women are among the supreme human emotional
experiences. Perhaps no other subject is so universally
celebrated and even idealised in literature, art, and
daily life. But the relationships of the sexes can have
a darker side, one that may involve extremes of
exploitation and violence.

There are some people who still regard rape
as an expression of unrestrained, impulsive sexual
desire. However, rape is a crime of violence,
not of passion. It is a ritual of power and humiliation
which, is regarded by most of us as intolerable. Therefore
as posters have stated in this discussion - we should stay
alert and let our law makers know what behavior
is not acceptable and will not be tolerated in our society.

Hopefully in the case of the serial rapist, Robert Fardon,
the judge's decision will be swayed by the testimonies of the
victims, and the public outcry that has arisen.

I am grateful to posters such as yourself, Saltpetre, Belly,
RObert, and others - who continue to argue at a mature,
reasoned, intelligent level.

Suseonline, "However, what upsets me is when we are discussing awful crimes such as rape, and some posters insist on carrying on about the few women who nastily do try to wrongly convict a man for rape"

What about you provide evidence for that allegation? List the posts that do that.

What is noteworthy about this thread is the inflammatory and obviously ridiculous statement made by you, to which others quite rightly lodged an objection.

<If this rapist was raping men, he would never get out of jail?
Posted by Suseonline, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 8:33:46 AM

Unabashed, you continued in a similar vein.

Add to that Foxy's comment,

<Men call themselves "feminists" in the hope of getting
a more intelligent root. (Kathy Lette)>
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 3 October 2013 3:43:59 PM

Now you both have the gall to play victim. LOL

Dear OTB,

I now understand why you chose the name
"On The Beach."
It should have been blatantly obvious from
your posts.
"No one's home!"

As I told you once before -
What ever it is that's eating you
must be suffering terribly.

Get help.

Foxy,

That is you modelling how to 'argue at a mature, reasoned, intelligent level'?

Perhaps some lack of insight there. LOL

The subject is about one of mans most evil crimes.
I have from time to time named it a hate crime.
Like an ice berg floating more beneath the surface than above other things emerge.
OTB seemingly less concerned than most, seems to want to insult women and that is a question only he can answer, why?
Maybe some self confedence is not truly earned