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Are irregular arrivals a wartime secret?
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Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 10 October 2013 1:05:57 PM
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Why are so many confused about the enforced silence on most issues with the new government.
While most who voted for Tiny Tony wanted to dump the ALP in truth he has no answers to give us. He has more than probably be3en well schooled in the Rupert Murdock school of lies and miss truths, to say nothing without the boss[ Ruperts]permission. After all his we will stop the boats was a promise made from fluff, he has no intention of letting us see his short term failure in this are. Tony and his crew, resembling those rotating Circus Clowns open mouther while in opposition are now firmly silenced. The very real danger exists if not silenced some may tell us the truth. That would make Rupert very mad! Posted by Belly, Thursday, 10 October 2013 3:07:29 PM
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There has been a lot of buzzing in the hive since the election. Some it is becoming very nasty indeed.
Meanwhile, Labor blows a cool $200,000 of TAXPAYERS' money on THEIR leadership competition. Heeeey, it is only taxpayers' money, right? Plenty more where that came from, right? But as Julia Whatshername was fond of saying to the Labor caucus, don't give age pensioners a few dollars more because they don't vote Labor. That is Julia Whatshername who voted herself an elephant sized pay rise to get more dough than the US President and the UK Prime Minister. Yes, that IS the same Julia who retired young on a golden handshake from the Australian taxpayers for life and can now easily afford a $2 million bungalow. Nah, $200,000 blown on the Labor leadership is nothing, any pensioner would tell you that. Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 10 October 2013 3:32:39 PM
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SM,
"....Towing is a last resort." "and finally towing the boats back when safe." http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/04/coalition-never-had-a-policy-of-towing-boats-back-says-scott-morrison "Morrison said the Coalition had “never had a policy of towing boats back to Indonesia” and blamed “misrepresentation over a long period of time” in the media for that impression." I think you'd better get in touch with Morrison, because he reckons they never had a tow back policy. (Something, I might add, you were at pains to get through to me recently) Seems you like to take two opposing sides to each argument these days - time for a break? ....... otb, Yep...very nasty of us to highlight Abbott's long career of rorting the taxpayer for self-promotion. Tch,tch. Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 10 October 2013 5:27:21 PM
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otb,
Yes, it's dreadful isn't it... Just think, all that money could be going to Tone's outings. http://www.northerndailyleader.com.au/story/1828922/free-reign-pm-tony-abbott-under-fire-for-tamworth-festival-trip-as-expense-scandal-deepens/ "HE SWAGGERED down Peel St like a Nashville star, posing in a cowboy hat, dancing a country-style jig and even embracing a mystery blonde holding a “Free Hugs” sign. But Prime Minister Tony Abbott has found himself in the eye of an expense scandal storm after it emerged his trip to the 2012 Country Music Festival was anything but “free” for taxpayers. The then-Opposition leader claimed $9347 in work expenses for the whirlwind visit – despite not even staying in the city overnight." "The parliamentary entitlements register shows taxpayers forked out $8800 for a private return charter flight for Mr Abbott from Sydney to Tamworth on January 25, 2012. There is no indication on the register of where the other $547 was spent." Nice one, Tone. Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 10 October 2013 5:58:51 PM
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Poirot,
Ah, I see where I made the mistake now, Dear Old Tin of Fruit. You think I am competing with you for the stage and limelight, you fruity, attention-seeking and jealous thing, you! But shouldn't you grace both sides of the stage, you silly old sausage? That $200,000 line on the autocue is going begging and there are none better than you to deliver it. Yours is a stand-up comedy show, isn't it? None would like to mistake it for anything serious. Then again, maybe the audience is yawning at the old lines of 'he said' and 'she said' and there is no humour at all in any politician who makes a benefit into a lurk. Today and $200,000 wasted when they could use videoconferencing is a bit much. No CEO of a private company would stand for that. But even now I hear the rustle of sequins and the (ahem) light step of those simply gorgeous size 12 high heels approaching, so I must be off. So move aside the rest of you, can't you see there is a Lady (heh,heh) waiting in the wings. Enter Poirot, Stage Left (but of course!). LOL Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 10 October 2013 9:32:25 PM
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I see that the concept of a policy containing more than one optional measure is too difficult to grasp. The coalition policy of turning back the boats essentially means interdicting the boats before they reach the 12Nm region of territorial waters and ensuring that they turn back. Towing is a last resort.
As Labor has been banging on as if towing back the boats is only trick the coalition has, confusion among its weaker minded followers is possible.
The coalition's policy frame work for stopping the illegal boats is:
1 TPVs
2 Off shore processing
3 Turning back the boats.
TPVs incl
Non permanent residence,
Expire immediately one leaves the country
Cannot bring in any relatives
Has restrictions on welfare.
Off shore processing incl
detention on Manus and Nauru,
No access to Aus courts and appeal to tribunal only
Resettlement in other countries such as PNG, NZ, etc
Turning back the boats may incl
Blockading the boats from reaching Aus territorial waters
Returning the "rescued" passengers and crew directly to Indonesia
Arresting the crew, and imprisoning them for lengthy periods,
and finally towing the boats back when safe.
From what I can see, we have had only 1 boat in 10 days without towing back a single boat.