Foxy, "Of course it involves taking some considerable risks"

You always have plenty of advice for others, however it is your heart on your sleeve and they take the risks and pay the taxes.

You have had abundant opportunity to take one or more of those buff young fellows in to board. The Government will even pay you for doing it.


So the question still remains, why haven't you walked your own talk?

That question could also be asked of prominent Greens such as the very well remunerated Bob Brown.

Instead of playing pirate on the high seas why hasn't Bob Brown and his partner who are living in comfortable retirement courtesy of the Australian taxpayer volunteered to take some of those illegal immigrants in for a while to 'save' them from the hotel rooms the government is obliged to rent for them?

Of course, given the interminable drubbing you give Australia for alleged unfair and abominable treatment given to migrants post WW2 (unfair and abominable according to you!), it is a wonder you aren't warning these economic migrants away from the place.

Foxy - Quote "No boats for three days today and counting" Means no boats arriving.

To quote you "I guess the boats that sink - don't count in the tally."

You are playing silly buggers here you know what he meant.

Philip S
The whole process is dodgy so why worry.
Foxy
Missed that one

It looks as though Abbott has already got further with Indonesia than Dudd/Juliar did in 6 years.

"The Indonesian President has made a significant concession to Tony Abbott's demands on asylum seekers in talks in Jakarta, agreeing that Indonesia will need to make direct deals with Australia to solve the people-smuggling problem."

It looks as if the coalition will restore the relationship with Indonesia back to Howard government levels and repair the damage done by Labor.

Yeah, SM, It depends on which paper you read...as to how the message is couched.

From Jakarta Post editorial,

"As Indonesia’s leader for nine years, President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono knows he should give enough space to his guest — Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott — so that the latter can claim to the Australian people that the result of a bilateral summit between the two countries on Monday proves his tough asylum seeker policy has been endorsed by Indonesia.

The President will not humiliate his guest by telling him to “abort” or soften his position. Indonesian Foreign Minister Marty Natalegawa has warned his new Australian counterpart Julie Bishop against taking unilateral measures, including buying Indonesian boats and paying Indonesian villagers to gather intelligence for Australia on the movements of asylum boats.....

Indonesia has a strong obligation to help Australia eradicate the flows of asylum seekers as Indonesia itself does not gain any benefit from human trafficking. It is a also a matter of national security for the country. Indonesia has a strong capacity to play a crucial role in the battle against illegal immigration.

The Australian leader, however, needs to understand that “loudspeaker” diplomacy will only harm his own government."

Dear OTB,

Yes, I know... earthquake in Canberra - obviously
my fault.

Your "objectivity" simple shines in all of your posts
as does your "knowledge" - especially about government
policy post World War II regarding refugees and their
treatment (through which my family happened to live
and experience).

But hey, when someone dares to look
critically at motivation, circumstances, context, or
any other such considerations of any issue - you immediately
accuse them of being "anti" Australian, et cetera.
I'm surprised you haven't called me a man-hating, "progressive"
yet... But there's still time. Can't wait.

Next will come some blatant reference to totalitarianism,
and firing squads. (Despite the fact that my family ran
from them during World War II having suffered dreadfully
from that regime).

Keep piling it higher and deeper until like some others
on this forum - you'll have it down to a fine art.

Cheers.