I see nothing to be gained by us leaving the UN
Suseonline,
You cant see anything at all let alone sense & reality.

How about answering Philp's question below ?
Would you really be so open to accepting every beggar that stopped at your door in place of your own family members.

Individual, you can't see anything but your own blind hatred of all people who don't have the same rigid views as you. No sense, no feeling.

As for dear PhilS, I don't think any Government official has asked anyone else if they would like to have some 'beggars' to live with them?
I doubt if our first Australians were asked if they wanted all the European 'beggars' living in their country either, so you must understand their problems very well...

Chris,
I have read that the latest boat was not only in Indonesian waters, but that it actually was only around 100m from the beach and broke up in the crashing waves.
A very sad event.
However I fail to understand why the media and others try to blame this on Australia.
I wonder if the media would have the guts to blame Indonesia if a boat sank just off the coast of Australia. Also why is that Asylum seeker blaming the Australian rescue service and why is he phoning them in the first place? I know if I was in a boat just off the coast of Australia and it started to sink, I would't be calling Indonesia.
What hypocrisy.

Ozzie, I think what the media are on about is that the latest Liberal Govt strategy (threat?) of getting a 3 star General to drive back all the 'invading' foreigners in leaky boats, is not working.

Whether or not the capsized boat was just off Indonesia or not, the fact remains that they were on their way to Australia...despite the new measures to 'Stop The Boats'.

And Abbott was a disgrace today to not even comment on the tragedy.
He did the usual furious silent thing he does...like a petulant child.
So embarrassing in a PM...

Suse,

"And Abbott was a disgrace today to not even comment on the tragedy.
He did the usual furious silent thing he does...like a petulant child.
So embarrassing in a PM..."

Shameful that Abbott behaves...as someone remarked....like a dodgy trader being pursued by a Today Tonight news team.

Not a PM's bootlace.

Suseonline - Your argument is just plane crazy Quote "Whether or not the capsized boat was just off Indonesia or not, the fact remains that they were on their way to Australia."

1) In what twisted logic does the fact the boat was heading to Australia make them our responsibility?

2) They were in Indonesian rescue zone.

3) They could have phoned Indonesia.

4) Australia had a merchant vessel and RAAF plane look but could not find them.

Poirot - Why does Abbott have to take responsibility or have to reply to something that is an Indonesian problem, Australia were just assisting them.

Nothing he could say would bring them back to life, the survivors are just looking for someone to blame for there own greed, or probably setting Australia up for a law suite for compensation.

As stated before I have NO sympathy for the adults my sympathy is for the minors forced onto the boat by greedy parents.