Lucyface,

There are at least 2 lies in the link you posted of Juliar.

a) she ruled out a carbon tax (again)
b) any would not be triggered until after 2013.

In 2011 she put in a carbon tax in spite of guaranteeing she wouldn't. That is a huge lie.

Dear OTB,

I do not berate or personally insult posters deliberately,
as you do. I do not deliberately set out in my posts to
hurt people.
Therein lies the difference between us. To me
if you base your entire case on insults - you've
lost the argument, and deserve to have it pointed
out to you. Insults is what you do best.
It's all you've got. That is your stock in
trade. So blaming others for your actions simply
does not wash.

If you behave as a "low-life,"
or come across as "red-neck, ignorant, neanderthal," you
deserve to have it pointed out to you. Go back
and re-read your posts. If you don't
like the opinion that was being formed from your posts -
you can always improve.

Talkin of airy tales...

Here's Mr Hockey on the "surplus":

"We will achieve a surplus in our first year in office and we will achieve a surplus for every year of our first term."

and Mr Abbott:

"We believe we can deliver surpluses in each year of the first term of a Coalition Government."

Tell me the difference, SM?.....because they've got buckley's of delivering it, especially in their first term.

Lies....designed to grab the votes.

"In 2011 she put in a carbon tax in spite of guaranteeing she wouldn't. That is a huge lie."

No Shal, she put in a fixed carbon price. A carbon tax is what Tony was talking about in my second link video, which he saw as preferable to an ETS. A fixed price was a first small step towards an ETS, whch many in the LNP supported, but not enough to give Turnbull the single vote he needed to defeat Abbott for the party leadership.

Whatever, congrats on being a part of the LNP/Murdoch/Mining/Half-Truth complex that achieved its aim. You can let go now.

Disguised by any name you like, it was a TAX.
Carbon Con.

So PPL is a tax, too? (on shareholders and/or purchasers of products of companies paying the levy).
Shhhh...it's a secret.