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Are irregular arrivals a wartime secret?

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SPQR,

Not annoyed....absolutely intrigued that you and your cohort here defend Morrison's hypocrisy.

No surprising, but I did hope there may be one redeeming feature amongst the disingenuous guff from you lot.

Not so.

Not surprised.

SM,

"How can the government be hypocrites when they are doing exactly what they said they would..... "

I have no recollection of Morrison telling us pre-election that he would descend into gross hypocrisy. Perhaps people like you just expect the worst behaviour from those you support - and therefore don't bat an eyelid at such hypocrisy.

I mean to say...that's the sort of guy Morrison is - right?

And you're right behind him...great stuff and all that.

Right?

Farcical.
Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 4:09:14 PM
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Lucyface,

Under the Pacific solution there were about 16 boats in the 6 years, and each time a boat arrived, labor would hold a press conference to say that the pacific solution had failed. When Labor was having 16 boats a month arriving Bowen / Rudd / Juliar should have been horse whipped outside parliament house.

The coalition does have principles, they include Australia having control of immigration not human traffickers, and not killing nearly 2000 people at sea. The Green's policy of letting people drown, but feeling sorry for them when appropriate is despicable.

The coalition is now doing exactly what it said it would do. TPVs, offshore processing and getting ready to turn the boats around, instead of the morally bankrupt labor that did exactly what it promised not to.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 4:26:25 PM
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Dear LuciferArse,

Sometimes it is entirely appropriate for you to read what you write, and this is one of those instances.

You and your supporters demonstrate a lack of understanding of real issues that defy even gravity.

I cannot understand why such dysfunctional thinking is registered as an acceptable mark of the failure of modern education. We have failed you and for this we are truly sorry.

You do not comprehend reality; you rely on Google and the millions of conspiracy web sites rather than social values and fact. What did your parents do to make you so negative? Why did you reject the social norms of family values? What made you so reactionary? Why do you need to challenge those who actually understand your dilemma? What have we done to create such aberrations of society as you?

You are not on your own of course. There are so many, who gave you the voice of the freedom of speech that you so despise? Who gave you the accesses to the information that that you distort as knowledge? Who gave you the freedom to express your opinion and now abuse as your right to be right? Why are you incapable of forming your own opinion and have to rely upon and adopt the opinion of others? What a sad indictment of the modern society you represent.

I ask these questions because we, as a society, need to understand how and why we have failed your generation. I don’t lay blame however, many of the thinkers in today’s world of adults and realists are at a loss to understand why your generation got so screwed up.

I’m sure that your response to this post will be more of the “mantra” to which you subscribe, it will be short, abusive, disconnected from reality, reactionary, socialist and the proselytized opinion of others. Your response will of course, prove me wrong?

Over to you
Posted by spindoc, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 4:47:52 PM
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Lefties and righties,
Do you really think that the average Australian beset with the rigors of keeping house and home together in the face of rising living costs and diminishing incomes really cares about who or how many drown trying to get here where they can add to the existing non earning pressures.
I don't care if people take disproportionate risks on open waters in leaky boats and they sink and they happen to drown.
What I do care about is the stupid UN convention that says we have to spend a fortune rescuing them and giving the medical aid and probably burying the dead we find.
Can they get travel insurance.
I don't care if their country is torn apart by civil war. They should fight on the side they believe in and not run away like cowards in the face of war. I am bloody sure that real Australians would pick up whatever they could to protect this country and, I might add,along the way protect all those Muslim immigrants that are already here
I am also very bloody sure I didn't fight three f--**__g wars to see the place overrun by people who care only about themselves.
Posted by chrisgaff1000, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 5:00:04 PM
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chrisgaff1000,
Even the Prime Minister of Kenya called these people cowards yet our resident morons want open doors for them to overrun us. The Kenyans are fighting back unlike our morons who want these terrorists to keep on sending so-called refugees to these shores.
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 5:11:14 PM
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The Monash Australian Border Deaths Database documents 746 reported deaths of asylum seekers between 2000 and 2007 (under Liberal/Nats).

Of those, 363 died at sea while on their way to Australia and a further 350 were presumed dead missing at sea. Of the rest, 22 died in detention and 11 were returned to Afghanistan - and reportedly murdered for being “Australian spies”.

Between 2008 and July 2013 (under Labor) 877 asylum seekers died. Of those, 15 died in detention centres. So during this period, 862 individuals died trying to reach Australia’s mainland by boat to seek asylum.

Therefore, the best official figure to mid 2013 since Labor took office, is just under 900 deaths, and during the Howard years just under 800 deaths.

The Liberal led Opposition thwarted all attempts by the Labor Government to find a satisfactory way to prevent people traveling by boat. Indeed, one could argue that the Coalition Opposition in fact encouraged it by inducing the government to re-open Nauru for their own political gain/game.

Deaths at sea is a tragedy that has occurred under both political parties - not just under the Labor government that OLO's 'Shadow Minister' or the Murdoch spin would have you believe - especially since 90% of asylum seekers who arrive by boat have been found to be genuine refugees.

My take, people should do their own research, from reliable and credible sources. Sadly, most people don’t have the time, capacity nor the will – particularly if it means going against what they want to believe.

In fact, some people deliberately lie or distort the truth for their own political games, as we see here from a shadow in his own mind.
Posted by ozdoc, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 5:12:20 PM
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