Bazz the issue has nothing to do with peak anything, it is a very simple question if we burn all the known fossil fuel reserves what will be the result ?

The are called reserves because it has been shown that they can be economically retrieved. The best information available tells us that we have far more fossil fuel reserves available than we can safely burn.

You mission should choose to continue this discussion is to prove that either we won't burn all the reserves or that the estimates of the reserves are grossly in error.

"Bum fight"?

Hasbeen is right about one thing ... he supports a yesterday's man, sad.

And ozdoc, tomorrow's man is exactly who pray tell?

Dear Hasbeen,

Hopefully it will be someone who's got qualities
such as initiative, leadership, drive, negotiating
ability, willingness to take risks, and persuasiveness.
Someone who's genuinely concerned about the nation's good
and directing unprecedented energy and resources to the
real problems that face us, including health, education,
aged care, transport, and so on.
Who knows who that may be - but we can only hope that
it will be someone who'll be more concerned about this
country than their personal ambition or party loyalties.

So Haz, what do you say about today’s news:

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/ipcc-report-scientists-are-95-certain-humans-causing-climate-change-8843573.html

http://theconversation.com/four-hiroshima-bombs-a-second-how-we-imagine-climate-change-16387

Luddy mate, you can't really be that dumb. It never occurred to me that you would read such CR4P as the Independent. It' s not your usual fare is it?

And what an article. I couldn't believe any publication could still be using those clichéd images. A calving glacier, & a popular one by all the tourist boats, a polar bear, one of the 500% increase numbers of them no doubt, & the steaming heat exchangers of a power house, for god sake. Mate you demean yourself referencing such garbage. At least the public broadcaster came up with the idea of Kakadu National Park becoming ocean. Equally fatuous, but at least a little more imaginative.

And then the Conversation. Do you really read this junk? True to form, they even had the same clichéd images, less the glacier, perhaps even they are embarrassed with that one.

I really do find it hard to believe you could reference such stuff on a public forum. God, think of your reputation. That garbage is now there under your name forever.

Obviously, as predicted, the "scientists" lost their backbone at the last minute, after the German heavies got to them, & threatened their budget. I wonder how many will resign after this kicking.