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How do we fix the Senate ?

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Banjo, when can I expect your link to crazy green policy as you said
"making all drugs legal, lowering the age of consent and teaching the population 'passive resistance' to prevent an invasion and doing away with the defence forces." Are you the hypocrite who bagged Belly for not answering your questions and now you retreat to this line.
"But they (Greens) now couch the policies in an abstract form, so they can mean whatever the reader wants them to mean."
Dave is not the only one with loony policy, your man Abbott intends to send Australia bankrupt, spending $175 billion buying old fishing boats from Indonesia, the last $75,000 in the kitty will be kept in case Gina Rinehart gets pregnant.

"I'm afraid Banjo is right Paul. You must be a young fella" wrong on that one Jayb. "They had rallys supporting Drug Houses & free needles at Nimbin. I (Jayb) was there." Were you in the drug house using the free needle? Unfortunately drugs can cloud your memory, were you a flower child, Jayb have you thought of seeking professional help? Its not too late you know.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 13 September 2013 6:11:31 AM
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p1405: " Were you in the drug house using the free needle?

No, but I saw them being handed out, outside the Ganja shop. I saw the Greens Banners in the Parade.

p1405: unfortunately drugs can cloud your memory,

yep! I saw that, that day.

p1405: were you a flower child,

Yes, I was.

p1405: Jayb have you thought of seeking professional help?

Been there, done that.

p1405: Its not too late you know.

It' never too late.

You sound a little miffed Paul. Is there a reason for that? ;-)
Posted by Jayb, Friday, 13 September 2013 8:41:26 AM
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>>Banjo, when can I expect your link to crazy green policy as you said
"making all drugs legal, lowering the age of consent and teaching the population 'passive resistance' to prevent an invasion and doing away with the defence forces."<<

You can't. I prefer my debate with facts instead of ratbag tory ranting so I had a look at the Greens policy page:

http://www.greens.org.au/policy-platform

There isn't anything there about legalising all drugs, lowering the age of consent, passive resistance or abolishing the defence force. There are a number of genuine, non-imaginary policies which are crazy: lowering the voting age to 16 (kids are idiots, why would you give them the vote?); opposing GM crops (irrational, knee-jerk response based on fear not good science); eliminating homelessness by 2020 (every homeless person off the street and no new ones within 7 years? Fat frigging chance); opposing uranium mining and nuclear power (irrational, knee-jerk response based on fear not good science).

I am curious as to what sort of person feels it is necessary to invent fictitious policies for the Greens and then attack the imaginary policies instead of attacking all the unreasonable policies they really do have.

Cheers,

Tony
Posted by Tony Lavis, Friday, 13 September 2013 10:39:58 AM
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Jayb,
I agree with you about making the Senate a proper house of review. The government wants 'control' of the Senate so it does not have to negotiate the bills through the Senate. But as I said earlier, the major parties control the electoral committee, so what benefits them will come into force.

Paul,
"Are you the hypocrite who bagged Belly for not answering your questions and now you retreat to this line". I don't believe I have ever bagged Belly for not answering a question.

"your man Abbott intends to send Australia bankrupt....." I don't have a man Abbott, in fact I have never praised him. shows your wacky assumptions!

I don't intend to read through the greens policies again, past or present. The policies I referred to have been validated by another poster whom I do not know, so that is quite sufficient. 'Passive resistance' Can you tell me how many bodies does an invading tank have to run over before it loses traction? You talk about other parties being fruitcakes!
Posted by Banjo, Friday, 13 September 2013 12:41:14 PM
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Tony L: There isn't anything there about legalising all drugs, lowering the age of consent, passive resistance or abolishing the defence force.

Not now, I notice, but it wasn't long ago that the Greens ran on a platform of decriminalizing all Drugs. I suppose if it's no longer a crime to possess drugs than you lower the amount of people going to jail. I guess they have become Politically Smart in the way they market their Policies.

However, to back that up. On the Greens Site: Illicit Drugs;

8.The Australian Greens do not support the legalisation of currently illegal drugs.
9.There should be greater funding for demand and harm reduction.
10.The individual use of illegal drugs should not fall within the criminal framework.

Notice the wording,
"currently illegal drugs" Code for The Greens want to decriminalize all drugs.
"Greater funding fro D & H reduction. Code for "Free Drugs, needles & Drug Hospitals."
"Individual use" Code for decriminalization of all personal drugs.

Thereby reducing crime. Schrimple!

Tony L: I am curious as to what sort of person feels it is necessary to invent fictitious policies for the Greens and then attack the imaginary policies instead of attacking all the unreasonable policies they really do have.

I guess it how deeply you look into & behind the Policies, isn't it. ;-) The old Policies are still there, just buried behind Politically Correct Speak Gobble de-Gook.

Now you & Paul go & put your tinfoil hats on & hide in the corner because Big Brother is watching your every move, but not under the Smoke detector because that full of Plutonium.
Posted by Jayb, Friday, 13 September 2013 12:46:26 PM
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Paul,

TA only flagged spending 20m on buying boats not billions. This is why most Australians think the greens are air heads.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 13 September 2013 1:20:56 PM
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