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How do we fix the Senate ?

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paul1405: "how lucky we are to have a Senate in Canberra populated by Greens." I'm sure you will agree.

NO WAY! Paul, you complain about Micro Parties. It wasn't long ago that the Greens were a Micro Party. Look at the problems they have caused for any Governments. The Greens Party is populated by people that have lost all touch with reality & they are having a bad influence on good Governance.

No one has explained to me what the problem is with having Micro Parties is. They represent people of Australia. They are not controlled by faceless men behind the scenes. Oh, is that what the problem is?
Posted by Jayb, Thursday, 12 September 2013 8:50:46 AM
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Paul 1405 is in all probability a good bloke.
But he is blinded to self interest.
We Australian vote for a host of reasons.
Some without the aid of reason.
Paul requires a old time Socialist/Communist country.
A thought that died about 20 years in to the last century, killing the very folk it was said owned the idea.
Pauls greens do resemble those naked Morris dancers my minds eye refuses to not see on mention of the word greens.
As Howard/Abbott stole One Nations policy,s, Palmer has stolen [why?] the greens basic plan.
Promise them any thing! know we will never have to give it!
Many of both party,s promises are more a threat than a promise in this case to mainstream Australia.
So dream on mate, but at some time confront the 3 point slip in your polling, face the truth, on both sides your party is watched with intent!
We the majority want with our every breath the end of greens representation in this country,s politics.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 12 September 2013 9:06:15 AM
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Belly,

"We the majority want with our every breath the end of greens representation in this country,s politics."

Judging by what Latham has to say here, Labor needs to straighten itself out before it criticises the machinations inherent in other parties.

http://www.afr.com/p/opinion/don_blame_rudd_gillard_for_labor_nhqNQOEiCsQVv4a6638SON
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 12 September 2013 9:19:13 AM
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Piorot,
I do not agree with Latham or the other Labor leaders in blaming disunity for labors failure. Nor do I agree with Belly in his blaming of the Murdoch press. Labors failures were evident right from the start in 2007-8 with Rudd axing the Pacific solution, then the fiasco just continued with one failure after another. The disunity and the unfriendly press may have contributed, but were not the basic problem.
After years of defending, the AGE and the smh even gave up towards the end. It was mismanagement and incompetence that brought Labor undone.

However I do not think Labor will face up to their own shortcomings of the last 6 years and frankly I cannot think of any one scheme or program that could be labelled successful. Can You?

Both PMs were failures as was the whole parliamentary party. How they go about fixing that is a major problem that they now face. I suggest they take more care with candidate selection.
Posted by Banjo, Thursday, 12 September 2013 10:28:56 AM
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Banjo,

"I cannot think of any one scheme or program that could be labelled successful. Can You?"

Apart from the one which left the economy in good nick by world standards - post GFC...and AAA credit ratings coming out of our ears....nah, can't think of any....

: )
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 12 September 2013 10:38:28 AM
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I'm gonna keep asking until I get an answer from the wonderful knowledgeable people on this Forum.

What is the problem with having Micro Parties? Please explain?

I've asked twice before & not received an answer. Does that mean that no one is knowledgeable enough to answer that simple question? It looks like it's all just noise again as usual.
Posted by Jayb, Thursday, 12 September 2013 10:47:50 AM
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