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How do we fix the Senate ?

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SM, Oh yes 700,000 boats at a modest $25K each equals. $175 billion. If Gina has triplets does she get $225,000? Can my Grandma get $975,000 back dated, she had 13 kids.
Banjo, now you (Paul1405) retreat to this line". "I don't believe I (Paul1405) have ever bagged Belly for not answering a question." I have bagged Belly many a time for not answering questions. Please point to where I posted THAT line, you are making it up, just as you make up Greens policy. Point to the line and point to the policy.
Tony, thanks for that post, don't expect anything from Banjo as he simply makes it up to suit or maybe he gets his "facts" from his read of Murdocks fish wrapper The Daily Telegraph, they publish lies and nonsense about the Greens, whenever they can, the gullible will believe anything they are told, when its what they want to hear.
Jayb, where do you get your "code" from, Archy Pell? Making up nonsense.
"You sound a little miffed Paul. Is there a reason for that?" No Jayb I'm not miffed at all.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 13 September 2013 1:55:48 PM
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paul1405: Jayb, where do you get your "code" from, Archy Pell? Making up nonsense.

Unfortunately it's not nonsense, dear Paul & Tony. Are you saying that the Greens don't want to decriminalize drugs to reduce the crime figures? You must be Very Young. The Greens have run on that platform for the last 30 years. Now the rhetoric has been toned down, that's all.

30 years ago we all knew what the “Green” in the Greens was for. They wore a big Green Cannabis Leaf was on their yellow T-shirts during the demonstrations. Even 10 years ago they wore them at the violent demonstrations at Keith Williams Resort near Cardwell. I was there, fishing. But that's before your time I suppose, young fellas.

Once again, FROM THE GREENS OWN SITE: Their Policy on Illicit Drugs; Cut & Paste.

8. The Australian Greens do not support the legalisation of currently illegal drugs.

Notice, "currently" Lie. Yes they do. The Greens have been Lobbying to get all drugs made legal for the last 30 years. They even had violent demonstrations over that point.

9. There should be greater funding for demand and harm reduction.

Notice, greater funding means Free Aid for drug addicts.

10. The individual use of illegal drugs should not fall within the criminal framework.

And there you have it.
First stage, "Legalize drugs for individual use."
Second stage, "Make all drugs legal eventually thereby they don't fall within the criminal framework.

It's not that hard. Just take of the tinfoil hat & the rose coloured glasses & read the small print. Shhishh!
Posted by Jayb, Friday, 13 September 2013 2:39:32 PM
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paul1405: You must be a young fella" wrong on that one Jayb.

Oh, Ok. I guess you know about drugs clouding the mind. They've made you forget, either that or, old age can make you forgetful too. :-)
Posted by Jayb, Friday, 13 September 2013 2:48:58 PM
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>>8.The Australian Greens do not support the legalisation of currently illegal drugs.<<

>>Notice the wording,
"currently illegal drugs" Code for The Greens want to decriminalize all drugs.<<

Yes of course Jay. The Greens publish their policy documents in code that only tory ratbags can accurately decipher. If you read between the lines of their quite explicit policy you can obviously see that when the Greens say they 'do not support the legalisation of currently illegal drugs' what they really mean is they 'do support the legalisation of currently illegal drugs'. That 'not' is just tricky wording and spin. Good thing we've got these rabid tories around to sort the truth from the bullsh!t.

Cheers,

Tony
Posted by Tony Lavis, Friday, 13 September 2013 2:54:02 PM
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Jay I got this from the LDP web site;

"The LDP supports the legalisation of use, cultivation, processing, possession, transport and sale of cannabis."

Can you please decipher their cannabis policy for me I'm not sure if they support the legalisation of use, cultivation, processing, possession, transport and sale of cannabis or if they are opposed to the legalisation of use, cultivation, processing, possession, transport and sale of cannabis, their policy is very unclear. Do they say what they mean or mean what they say, there must be a "code" there somewhere for you to crack! I hate ambiguous policy, never saying what they mean. LOL
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 13 September 2013 5:56:50 PM
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paul1405: "The LDP supports the legalisation of use, cultivation, processing, possession, transport and sale of cannabis."

My best guess is that "The LDP supports the legalisation of use, cultivation, processing, possession, transport and sale of cannabis."

No fine print there. I guess they'll get on well with the Greens.

When it comes to ambiguity, I'm with you. So you don't like any of the Political Parties either. They all seem to thrive on it so they can say, "Oh! We didn't lie, you just misunderstood."

With ordinary people in the Senate maybe they can say to the Major Parties, "Please explain." The Senate could do with a bit of Hansonism to make Government work better.

A bit of forced, "Say what you mean & mean what you say," would be a bit od a shock for any Government.

I write to the pollies all the time & as I tell them, "If the reply is longer than a single paragraph they are lying." Most of the replies I get back are usually a full page, some times two full pages. I précis it & send it back with the Gobble de-Gook outlined in red. I guess they hate me, or at least their minders do.
Posted by Jayb, Friday, 13 September 2013 8:40:05 PM
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