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This is the type of person we do not need in the senate.
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Posted by Philip S, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 5:25:35 PM
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I see no articles that say Jacqui Lambie would not support the repeal of the Carbon Tax. Do you have a reference or link ?
Posted by Arjay, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 9:47:37 PM
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Here you go Arjay
"My thoughts on the carbon tax is that there still needs to be a carbon tax, but it just needs to be a lot lower than it is." http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-09/palmer-united-tasmanian-hopeful-labels-liberals-27a-boys-club/4945574 It probably didn't get reported on RT.com, so it's not surprising you missed it. Posted by Pericles, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 10:53:16 PM
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Paul1405, David Lyonhjelm (LDP) is not a fruit cake.
His comment is a reference to the "donkey vote" (they were listed first). It's just a joke! (I don't know why the Electoral Commission allowed the registration of the name Liberal Democrats) Pauline Hanson or Shooters/Fishers would have got a seat in NSW if Palmer United (supposed nationalists) had preferenced them before the Coalition. I wonder how many PUP voters thought their preferences would go to other alternative nationalist parties *first*? Considering how high the official quota is, it's ridiculous how many people are being elected with so low a vote. It's all because of these preference deals, which wouldn't even be necessary if people could number more than one box *above* the line, thereby distributing their vote in their own order and not being transferred to any party they don't choose to number. Even if they vote below the line (a cumbersome task), they must still number *every* box, meaning their vote could wind up electing someone they despise. There needs to be reform, but it's mainly revising how the forms are filled out that would solve the problem. Posted by Shockadelic, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 1:23:36 AM
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Ms Lambie comes across (in one TV interview at least) as something of a 'rogue element', or at best a 'free spirit', and thus should really have only been standing as an 'independent'.
It appears possible that she may have taken unscrupulous advantage of standing under the PUP umbrella, so as to vastly improve her chances of winning a senate spot. (And it would appear that Clive and his 'machine' may well not have done their homework properly in their selection process in this instance. A poor show, even if they were running against the clock to gain sufficient 'contenders' to make a good showing.) Politics is, or should be, a serious business, and 'transgressions', such as this may well turn out to be, ought be the subject of appropriate censure. A stain on PUP legitimacy? Possibly. Time will tell. (I think it is also relevant here to see comments on the 'How do we fix the Senate' thread - for, on current outcomes, this part of the ballot system appears to have some very large gaping 'holes' in it.) Posted by Saltpetre, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 1:31:42 AM
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Shockadelic, did you listen to the link I posted of Leyonhjlm being interviewed by Neil Mitchell from 3AW? Tax is the LDP's big bogie, proposes a tax free threshold of $40,000 then a flat 20% income tax, when asked how much it would cost, the bloke didn't have an answer, well the answer was "A lot, I don't remember, I'm 61 years old" 61 and senile if you can't answer that question about your major policy. On gun control the blokes a "Rambo". to be fair there is some stuff he said I could agree with, but he comes across as generally lacking political reality.
Listing to Big Clive on the ABC, it seems to me politics and parliament is just another play thing for Clive, like his dinosaur park and titanic, something he will get tied of and discard when he feels like it. He reminds me of the bloke some years ago who formed The Mickey Mouse Party, with a single policy of "free cheese for everybody." it got him votes. Clive is bit of a "free cheese man" as well, populism and cold cash (Big Clive's cash that is) plucked him a few votes from the big two and even from The Greens. Like a bad smell he'll stick around for a while but eventually blow away, when the wind changes. Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 6:36:30 AM
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To quote your original comment "The though our author wants to bar a Senator for holding an opinion is disturbing.
No truly!"
Please indicate what part of my post led you to make this comment?
To quote from your 2nd comment "I continue to forget you lack any intellectual ability's" Sarcasm 8is the lowest for of wit, draw your own conclusion from that statement.
To further quote you "Will stay away," YOU keep saying words to that effect but you fail to be able to follow through, very weak willed.
To quote you from before "I come here for intellectual stimulation, not the very opposite." PLEASE be so kind as to what parts of your comments on this thread come under the heading of "intellectual stimulation."