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on conquerors and fair treatment of the conquered

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@paul

cont.....

e. "drive them into the desert"?
again, paul, please dont use such colored words
i suggested reserves be carved out for them
they indicate that they dont want our way of life
so we allow them to go back to their way of life
and we protect such reserves from interference by citizens who choose to live outside the reserves
those who choose to be (a) has one chance to go back to group (b)
NO again...we do not chase them.
but if they choose to stay in the cities and towns etc, they must compete with the rest of us.
not all new migrants or existing white citizens have it easy you know
many of us fail and end up as rubbish collectors or doing menial labour to survive

f. again paul...please do not call me a bigot
i am just trying to be a realist
full rights for the aborigines?
they want all whites and other races out of australia
we can take our roads...buildings...etc away
just go
how?
you agree to leave?
do you have a better solution?
Posted by platypus1900, Sunday, 18 August 2013 10:52:30 PM
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Dear Paul1405,

Me thinks we may have a troll on our hands. He/she is spreading themselves over the forum flagging all the good push button issues and baiting them up to the max.

Reminds me of BOAZ_david. Ah there is a name that brings back fond memories.
Posted by csteele, Sunday, 18 August 2013 10:57:45 PM
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platypus1900. I did not refer to you as a bigoted raciest, read my comment' "just to show your not some bigoted recast you finish with;
"Not all whites are successful...not all migrants are successful. That is life and they have to learn." take note of the word NOT,
Your ideas at best, are straight out of the nineteenth century, a return to benign paternalism, where all aboriginal people must be treated like children and shown the virtues of being "white".
You seem to have no concept of social justice its all sink or swim and and that's all based on your assessment of success.
"do you (Paul) have a better solution? Yes I do, its one of inclusion where Aboriginal people work hand in hand with government and other interested parties to achieve real positive outcomes for indigenous people in all areas of society, health, education, housing, employment, the list is an extensive one. Its not one where government tries to impose "their" solution to what is a deep and complex problem. I must point out that despite the adversity aboriginal people have suffered for over 200 years there have been many shining examples of indigenous success.
csteele, could be.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 19 August 2013 8:33:44 AM
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@paul

i am merely giving them a chance to be what they want in the reserves to be created
they DO NOT want our way of life, so why talk about assimilation and adoption?
they do not see our lifestyle as superior or better in quality to theirs

shinning example?
yes..this will be the segment who wants to assimilate
this group i can agree to helping with good schemes for a period of time this period should not be endless as we do not want a crutch mentality
Posted by platypus1900, Monday, 19 August 2013 9:24:27 AM
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Paul,

I believe what good old platypus wants is "Blessed segregation"...for those who hold onto the scraps of their culture.

"......we do not want a crutch mentality."

(Unless you happen to be an upper middle-class woman on $150.000 per annum, who fears her "lifestyle" might take a dip if she decides to have a baby :)
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 19 August 2013 10:08:20 AM
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Dear Platypus,

<<those who want to be in (b), let them stay in peace and quiet in govt gazetted reserves....>>

What gives aboriginals such special privileges? Aren't we all subjected to the same conquering regime? Have the rest of us been ever asked whether we agree for this huge monolithic state rule over us, over a whole continent? What about all others who "will not want to integrate into the mainstream of the conquerors"?

Surely we all deserve the same. Surely everyone of any race that so wishes should be able to live in peace and quiet in an autonomous region free of the overwhelming Western/technological conquest.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 19 August 2013 12:13:09 PM
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