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The Forum > General Discussion > The nanny state strikes again.

The nanny state strikes again.

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On the main road, between my home & local town there is a hill. It's not much of a hill, but does have overtaking lanes on the road up on both sides.

At the top, for no good typographical reasons, so probably as an artifact of faulty eighteen hundreds property boundaries, is a dogleg in the road. This is labeled at 70 by those advisory speed signs, so safe to take, in a reasonable car, reasonably driven, at around 125 to 135 Km/h.

My wife has been driving through the thing about a dozen times a week for over 20 years with no trouble, but now, suddenly it has been declared a "CRASH ZONE", with huge signs, & a dozen smaller orange egged 90 signs.

I must ask why, if 70Km/H is recommended, is this new 90Km/H limit imposed. Government short of fine income perhaps.

Yes some intelligence deprived people have run off the road here, but that really is their choice, & no amount of signage can help such people.

The huge expense involved in such government effort would have been better put to correcting the bad reverse camber in one part, which is what catches poor drivers, or straightening the dogleg, but I suppose that is too logical for bureaucrats.

I guess we can now expect a regular police radar trap in this area, to help pay for the stupidity, & for the idiots sitting in a high rise office somewhere in Brisbane city, who dream it up.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 9 August 2013 1:16:54 PM
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Woohoo Hazza, I’ve found something that I can agree with you about, and share your abject detestment over… for the second time ever I think! ( :>)

I can just picture it: the speed limit is 100, the recommended speed on the bit of road you are talking about is 70, and the esteemed authorities have changes the speed limit to 90!

Wonderful! As stupid as you could ever get…. But I’ve seen, and photographed, many similar situations. So I am not in the slightest bit surprised.

The whole speed limit thing is just so piss-poorly done, all over the country!

It has become absurd beyond all belief at roadworks zones, where if you dare to slow down to anywhere near the legally-binding temporary slow speed limit until you get right up to the actual work zone, then you are very likely to incur the abject wrath of the driver behind you, with chronic tailgating resulting.

The same sort of thing applies with the advisory slower zones on bends and the like. You’d be much better off ignoring them completely and just rolling with the flow.

In fact the speed limit, advisory or legally-binding, is very often strongly at odds with the traffic flow speed, and you are much safer to do the same speed as everyone else around you than try to observe the letter of the law, or even observe a very distant approximation of the law or advice!

This whole business is so badly in need of a total revamp!

<< …for no good typographical reasons… >>

Hehehe! Interesting topographical error! ( :>|
Posted by Ludwig, Friday, 9 August 2013 6:12:49 PM
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AR, hi Luddy, my computer has developed a case of automatic spell check, from somewhere, & I'm sure it did that to me. Well that's my excuse anyway.

Actually old mate, I think we agree about many things, especially population growth & immigration, but we are both just too pedantic to make it onto exactly the same page with most things.

Yep some clown reduced the limit on the hilly bit Gold Coast side of Canungra army base a while back. It went from 100 to 80 & then to 70. Then they resurfaced the road, & added a bit of overtaking lane, but did nothing about the bit of reverse camber there that catches all the tourists their either.

The local tow truck people reckon business just gets better, dragging the fools out of the scrub.

Those advisory signs can be a bit dangerous down here, near the border. The NSW advised speeds are quite a bit slower than the Qld advice.

I recently came up Mount Lindesay Highway, from NSW. I did not notice any sign telling me I had crossed the border, but I suppose there was one. I did most definitely notice however that using the advisory speed signs I was suddenly arriving in corners traveling faster than I expected to.

If I had been traveling quickly, it could have been a problem. This is one instance where stargazing at the signs beside the road, rather than keeping my eyes on it, might have been a good idea.

So it's wise to keep this in mind where you change states. As with so many things, they do things differently with road signs.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 9 August 2013 7:43:24 PM
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Hasbeen - Your council rates at work. Check the salary of the high council employees some are on a good wicket they have to justify it.
somehow.

Australia
1 Federal Government.
2 State Government.
3 Local Government.
4 Court system that can overturn decisions of all the above.
5 High Court system that can overturn decisions of all the above.
6 Tribunals that can overturn decisions of all the above.

Can't anyone see a lot of problems here, politicians can't so we are screwed right left and center.
Posted by Philip S, Friday, 9 August 2013 8:08:32 PM
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Yes Hazza that camber-change thing can be a real bugger!

It’s not something that is mentioned very often but I’ve struck it many times and thought; sheesh that’s dangerous!

It is not so much the really obvious changes, but more the subtle ones that can catch you out, when you think you line of travel is fine and suddenly you are veering gently across towards the trees… or the oncoming traffic.

I think that in many instances it needs warning signs.

And yes it would be nice if things were standardised across the country. I’ve done a lot of driving in all the states in the last few years. There certainly are some interesting differences between them.
Posted by Ludwig, Friday, 9 August 2013 8:37:07 PM
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Hasbeen how dare they!
Been a few smashes in that area I presume, how dare the beggars warn folk.
Our freedom to kill each other on the roads must be put first!
Lets turn the advisory signs around, make the turn look to be the other way around.
Paint only half a pedestrian crossing now and again, give us a chance to get them.
Mate are you aware of the grumpy old man theory?
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 10 August 2013 7:02:19 AM
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