On the main road, between my home & local town there is a hill. It's not much of a hill, but does have overtaking lanes on the road up on both sides.

At the top, for no good typographical reasons, so probably as an artifact of faulty eighteen hundreds property boundaries, is a dogleg in the road. This is labeled at 70 by those advisory speed signs, so safe to take, in a reasonable car, reasonably driven, at around 125 to 135 Km/h.

My wife has been driving through the thing about a dozen times a week for over 20 years with no trouble, but now, suddenly it has been declared a "CRASH ZONE", with huge signs, & a dozen smaller orange egged 90 signs.

I must ask why, if 70Km/H is recommended, is this new 90Km/H limit imposed. Government short of fine income perhaps.

Yes some intelligence deprived people have run off the road here, but that really is their choice, & no amount of signage can help such people.

The huge expense involved in such government effort would have been better put to correcting the bad reverse camber in one part, which is what catches poor drivers, or straightening the dogleg, but I suppose that is too logical for bureaucrats.

I guess we can now expect a regular police radar trap in this area, to help pay for the stupidity, & for the idiots sitting in a high rise office somewhere in Brisbane city, who dream it up.

Woohoo Hazza, I’ve found something that I can agree with you about, and share your abject detestment over… for the second time ever I think! ( :>)

I can just picture it: the speed limit is 100, the recommended speed on the bit of road you are talking about is 70, and the esteemed authorities have changes the speed limit to 90!

Wonderful! As stupid as you could ever get…. But I’ve seen, and photographed, many similar situations. So I am not in the slightest bit surprised.

The whole speed limit thing is just so piss-poorly done, all over the country!

It has become absurd beyond all belief at roadworks zones, where if you dare to slow down to anywhere near the legally-binding temporary slow speed limit until you get right up to the actual work zone, then you are very likely to incur the abject wrath of the driver behind you, with chronic tailgating resulting.

The same sort of thing applies with the advisory slower zones on bends and the like. You’d be much better off ignoring them completely and just rolling with the flow.

In fact the speed limit, advisory or legally-binding, is very often strongly at odds with the traffic flow speed, and you are much safer to do the same speed as everyone else around you than try to observe the letter of the law, or even observe a very distant approximation of the law or advice!

This whole business is so badly in need of a total revamp!

<< …for no good typographical reasons… >>

Hehehe! Interesting topographical error! ( :>|

AR, hi Luddy, my computer has developed a case of automatic spell check, from somewhere, & I'm sure it did that to me. Well that's my excuse anyway.

Actually old mate, I think we agree about many things, especially population growth & immigration, but we are both just too pedantic to make it onto exactly the same page with most things.

Yep some clown reduced the limit on the hilly bit Gold Coast side of Canungra army base a while back. It went from 100 to 80 & then to 70. Then they resurfaced the road, & added a bit of overtaking lane, but did nothing about the bit of reverse camber there that catches all the tourists their either.

The local tow truck people reckon business just gets better, dragging the fools out of the scrub.

Those advisory signs can be a bit dangerous down here, near the border. The NSW advised speeds are quite a bit slower than the Qld advice.

I recently came up Mount Lindesay Highway, from NSW. I did not notice any sign telling me I had crossed the border, but I suppose there was one. I did most definitely notice however that using the advisory speed signs I was suddenly arriving in corners traveling faster than I expected to.

If I had been traveling quickly, it could have been a problem. This is one instance where stargazing at the signs beside the road, rather than keeping my eyes on it, might have been a good idea.

So it's wise to keep this in mind where you change states. As with so many things, they do things differently with road signs.

Hasbeen - Your council rates at work. Check the salary of the high council employees some are on a good wicket they have to justify it.
somehow.

Australia
1 Federal Government.
2 State Government.
3 Local Government.
4 Court system that can overturn decisions of all the above.
5 High Court system that can overturn decisions of all the above.
6 Tribunals that can overturn decisions of all the above.

Can't anyone see a lot of problems here, politicians can't so we are screwed right left and center.

Yes Hazza that camber-change thing can be a real bugger!

It’s not something that is mentioned very often but I’ve struck it many times and thought; sheesh that’s dangerous!

It is not so much the really obvious changes, but more the subtle ones that can catch you out, when you think you line of travel is fine and suddenly you are veering gently across towards the trees… or the oncoming traffic.

I think that in many instances it needs warning signs.

And yes it would be nice if things were standardised across the country. I’ve done a lot of driving in all the states in the last few years. There certainly are some interesting differences between them.

Hasbeen how dare they!
Been a few smashes in that area I presume, how dare the beggars warn folk.
Our freedom to kill each other on the roads must be put first!
Lets turn the advisory signs around, make the turn look to be the other way around.
Paint only half a pedestrian crossing now and again, give us a chance to get them.
Mate are you aware of the grumpy old man theory?

Belly you amaze me sometimes.

Your idea appears to be leave the lousy road making mistakes in place, & drop the speed limit, or stick up a sign. Could this be the way to avoid admitting the job was lousy in the first place.

Perhaps our bureaucrats have shares in the Armco & road sign companies, it appears that is all the fools can think of when it comes to roads.

We have them spending a fortune on Armco around the outside of curves everywhere, but never fixing the lousy road construction causing the accidents.

Then their lousy Armco just bounces cars back into the path of other cars, instead of letting them harmlessly out into a paddock by themselves. They have spent millions on road furniture instead of roads around here in Beattie's day, & I hoped for better from the new government.

I guess this sort of stuff proves the fool bureaucrats rule, not the government.

I do have to wonder sometimes, if you actually read all the post before going off at some tangent. For a bloke who is so sure they know everything, you sure can talk rubbish sometimes.

That ain’t a Nanny State. A real Nanny State is like some UK Councils. They think everyone is having too much salt on their fish ‘n chips so they mandated the removal of the 17 X hole salt shaker lids and replacing them with 7 X hole lids.

The punters get peed off having had a few beers and remove the lids, now they are definitely getting too much salt.

The Devon Constabulary is required to carry a stock of thongs (flip-flops) in their patrol cars. The reason? Some young ladies having had a little too much at the Club on Saturday evening are inclined to fall off their high heels. So the local Bobbies have to supply thongs before arrest.

Now THAT is a Nanny State.

Nanny State is bad enough but in the cities we also have to contend with this,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBFFrsvgu1Y&feature=youtu.be

Try again, after a cyclist induced fault no doubt,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBFFrsvgu1Y&feature=youtube

Hasbeen Good on ya Bloke!
What a relief! to know my mind does not work like yours! Hip Hip haray!
Bloke you must consider your growing grumpiness.
Roads are not play grounds for elderly petrol heads.
I thought your diatribe a few years ago about that poor bloke who was not English and needed to read a meter or some such thing was you worst this one now is.
See you have company but why donnt you get together and pull the sign down, then think about any deaths after!

Locally we are being imposed upon by the installation of concrete
obstructions at the road side and at some inersections.
They stick out from the curb into the roadway.
That they are incorrectly positioned is proved by the tyre marks on them
within just a day or two of their installation.

I often wonder why a traffic engineers qualification does not include a drivers licence. It seems fundamental to me.

Hasbeen, it is unlikely that the staff responsible for signs on the road near your home read Online Opinion. As you did not say where the road is, they would not be able to answer your question in any case. You might like to post the question, with the location of the signs to a forum likely to be read, and post a copy directly to the organization responsible for signs in your area. This may be a private company, local, state or federal government agency. If you can't work out who is responsible for the signs, you might also try an on-line service such as "Fix My Street": http://fixmystreet.org.au/

Speed is the 20th century cash cow and it is there to be milked for every dollar that is available. The psychology is that in over 97% of cases the offender bears the personal burden of unrequited guilt and pays up. It is the perfect system. Almost as though its authors had read Ayn Rands "Atlas Shrugged" where the state made it a priority for the victim to feel the guilt.