Lexi ans Suseonline the thread has been kicked around and that is the normal for some.
About 12 months ago head shrinks, sorry about that not game to try to spell the right name.
Told us research had proved we are born to be conservative or not.
And too that conservatives tend to fear change and look for the down side in any thing.
OUTSTANDING!~
Given the time and reason to think about it we could have worked that out by just reading here.
Roll on Republic, new Anthem, one we know the words off, and a peoples picked President.

Dear Belly,

As John Warhurst points out, "Moving to a republic
would be part of a natural evolutionary track that
Australia has been on for more than a hundred years
as we consolidate our independent national identity."

Over the past forty years we've all watched some of these
changes happen. "Advance Australia Fair," replacing
"God Save the Queen," as the national anthem; the High
Court of Australia becoming the final court of appeal
rather then the British/Imperial Privy Council; regular
selection of Australians as Governor-General rather than
British aristocrats. Other changes like Australianising
the royal titles, occurred still earlier.

Warhurst reminds us that often these changes did not come
easily and were opposed at the time by the predecessors
of today's monarchists.

However, Warhurst also makes the valid point that, "these things
happened not at all because the system was "broke," but
because it was ill-fitting, outdated, old-fashioned and,
therefore, no longer logical. It made sense for Australians to
look to the future not the past."

"This is the trajectory along which Australia is moving, and a
republican Australia sits comfortably on this trajectory.
...This is a logical step that is very much in line with our
development as an independent nation."

Dear Suse,

It definitely is better to be friends with your neighbours
than to fight them. Especially in the region in which we
live.

After seeing the corruption in Labor and unions, and after experiencing the stuff-ups of the social re-jigging by the 'Progressives' elite who influence Labor, the public could be excused for shying away from letting Julia Whatshername and her treacherous Greens sidekicks, or now Kev13 who made so many Ruddy messes, interfere with the Constitution, flag, anthem and government structure.

As Malcolm Turnbull observed, Australia has done very well with its system of government, which puts Australia in the top few successful democratic nations in the world. Australia is fortunate to have a non-political Queen with sixty years of proving her stability and the jolly good sense to stay out of political squabbles and taking sides.

In a nightmare one can imagine the dreadful fusses, constant political intrigue and knifings with a political president.

A president doesn't even fit into the structure of government that has worked so well for so long and will continue to do so if left undisturbed.

Here is a challenge, what about fixing all of that corruption in Labor and the unions as a priority? All of those small income earners who were leaned on to join a union, only to find out later that the CEO and others have been using the money for their own high life.

What about the union heavies who can knock a PM off his seat and then reinstate him, all the while pretending that the criticims of his performance should now be forgotten? Suck it up voters.

The founding fathers got it right. Let the ones who want to fiddle with our constitution, system of government and even the flag prove themselves capable of behaving ethically first.

Incredible, not a statesman in sight and none for years -the party pre-selection processes ensure that career hacks are selected and promoted- and the very flawed self-titled 'Progressives' want a free go at ruining the bit that works and has done so for donkey's years.

There are quite a few myths in the republic-monarchy
debate:

First among the myths is the argument that monarchy
by definition or by weight of evidence is a superior
form of government to a republic.

There are numerous examples of
successful republics around the world, including the
United States of America, France, Italy, India, Ireland,
and a majority of the members of the British Commonwealth.
This type of argument is irrelevant to Australia's future.

Australia has dispensed with a lot of Imperial trappings
not because they were broken per se but because they
increasingly ran counter to the modern Australian identity
and therefore were no longer appropriate.

For example, we largely had British governors-General until
the 1960s. Would we ever want a British Governor-General
rather than one of our own again? Australians made their
feelings clear when Prince Charles's name was floated as a
potential Governor-General by Prime Minister Fraser more
than thirty years ago.

The argument that the monarchy should be retained because
it has worked for Australia and produced our stability
and prosperity is wrong and equally silly. As John Warhurst
tells us, "There is no causal relationship between the
monarchy and stability. Australia's records in all matters
is our own responsibility and to our credit or debit.
Monarchies can't produce stability, societies can."

"Look at strife-torn Northern Ireland for an example of an
unstable society despite also sharing the British monarch."

"The monarchy is not the same thing as the parliamentary
system and nobody is arguing that we dispense with that.
The Westminster system stays and a successful parliamentary
system of government is not necessarily tied to the
monarchy, as the Republic of Ireland has shown. There is
little public support for an American-style executive
President."

Constitutional reform as Warhurst states is difficult.
We've all heard arguments that might
stop the passage of a referendum in its tracks, like fear
of the unknown or reference to other supposedly higher
priorities (often misleading).

Warhurst says that good government, good policy-making,
an equitable distribution of wealth and provision of
government services are not alternatives but complements
to constitutional reform.

Lexi,

Of course John Warhurst is a supporter. He is a prominent member of ARM. That needs to be mentioned. Might as well be quoting the Pope on religion.

Rather than quoting large slabs of general bumpf penned by someone else, a ARM partisan, what about addressing the issues raised by other posters?

You have yet to make a case for the public or Parliament to waste time on it when there are so many other pressing priorities that cannot be put on the back burner.

This what you did in your 'discussion' threads on gay marriage. You say you are interested in ideas discussion, but you go on to ignore any other opinions and post links and slabs of quotes from activist and advocacy sources that agree with you.

Some discussion. NOT!

Banjo was right.

OTB are you OK?
Is your hatred of Labor and all things union hurting you.
Self harm is the worst kind.
Now I am guessing you post here to show off your intellect.
And rampage against any thread on any subject, no matter how hard to divert, against all the above.
Are you sure you are OK
See free speech is current in this country.
And Republicans come from both sides of politics.
Self praise is no recommendation.
And you present in this thread as an angry ant with little understanding.