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Snouts in the trough and rats in the ranks
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Posted by SILLER, Friday, 2 August 2013 2:18:19 PM
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Paul NSW once the driver of ALP Federal elections will suffer.
We both know that. And while Robbo is in my view a giant after some we had, and started reforming the place before Kev came back, we have 2 more terms in opposition here. But links to the federal party are phantoms. Sillier are you aware, [not defending the filth] about the Fitzgerald findings in QLD? Or Askin and Wran,s crimes while in office. Lets stop avoiding this truth Vic Qld now NSW have seen, minor in comparison but still crimes committed by the other side count the fallen ministers. We every one of us if we target only 9one side own the continuing betrayal of us all. Paul may I take it you are preferenceing SM? Posted by Belly, Friday, 2 August 2013 4:28:20 PM
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Paul 1405, "In 2013 I'm not getting the same feeling despite polls saying its neck and neck, and its the corruption issue which is hurting now"
I reckon you are right. Rudd must rush to an election, but too late! To top it all off, unemployment is up, Rudd is now raiding workers' savings and the $30 billion debt for this financial year has been admitted. It was previously admitted to be $18 million, so it is a big rise. While the $30 million is not horrific in itself, when the debts of State Governments are added to it there is a very frightening debt overall being passed on to younger generations. Six years Labor and it is said that it will take sixty years to repay it all if there is no more borrowing. That is very painful for the young working people who will have to carry the burden. Boats are not forgotten. There are plenty of people who are asking exactly when the government's big heart and charity will be seen at home. - There are 100,000 homeless of which at least 10,000 are children. - There are thousands of aged being treated abominably in nursing homes. Their nightmare is not new either. The government's own auditor the Australian National Audit Office has had similar findings over some years. Despite the ANAO's reports being tabled in Parliament, nothing has changed. So much for the government's concern about its own citizens and especially the aged. Posted by onthebeach, Friday, 2 August 2013 4:56:37 PM
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I can't convict anyone until they have been through the court system.
Finding out if there should be a court action is not proof of nothing. the findings don't sound good , but neither did Thomson or Slipper. No one is guilty of anything. Posted by doog, Friday, 2 August 2013 5:16:28 PM
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Paul,for that matter OTB yes some impact from a state issue will be seen in NSW votes.
Any thought Federal Labor is gone, because of something not of its making is premature. Ignore it if you wish, but given current feelings seen in polling Any leader other than Abbott confronting Federal Labor would win. Australia, on the day will not trust Abbott. Posted by Belly, Saturday, 3 August 2013 7:03:58 AM
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In one SMH article it was stated:
"There are two types of people in the Labor Party," one senior state MP says. They were "those who bent the knee and kissed Eddie's ring, and those who kept their distance because they thought him so odious"" http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/rise-and-fall-of-the-godfather-20130802-2r4sb.html It is a pity more did not find him odious. This sort of scenario happens even in the APS when people are to scared to speak up for fear of reprisals and loss of career. I imagine the bigger you are the harder the fall and thus people remained silent. This is another reason whistleblower laws need to be strong to protect those who report on corruption. If more within the party had collectively rallied against what was obviously dirty politics these sorts of behavours might be stemmed. Trouble is it takes one person to start the ball rolling and the risk is sometimes that person may be left holding the ball alone. The fear factor. On the Federal level there is little oversight on ministerial entitlements and much of it is self-policed with little checking unless it is bought to the attention of the responsible agency through the media or another avenue. The Register of Interests is poor and if you read through each members declarations there are holes and even one (if I remember correctly) that refused to give his wife's assets because it was deemed "no-one's business". So some politicians clearly hold the public in such disdain they remove themselves from accountability. Posted by pelican, Saturday, 3 August 2013 9:25:38 AM
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How does this level of people get nominated and elected to government. Something is rotten in the state of New South Wales (Denmark)