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Snouts in the trough and rats in the ranks

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SM, I didn't forget to post about Thomson which is another (smelly) matter altogether. My partner resigned from the HSU over what had happened. She only recently rejoined and took on the job of union delegate. She feels very strongly about the damage the O'Farrell government is inflicting on NSW Health, but that's another 'john dory'.
The SMH devoted the front 7 pages today to the Macdonald/Obeid corruption scandal. My view is these ICAC findings will do enough damage to Labor to see it loose the federal election. I've been doing a bit recently for The Greens in my electorate, marginal Labor, and truthfully I'm not getting a good feeling from voters about Labor's chances, despite the polls having Rudd and Abbott neck and neck.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 1 August 2013 8:07:59 PM
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Paul as you are aware this is no secrete.
I have aired the NSW FILTH for a number of years.
I suspect your rehashing it is more about the greens.
A party unable to hit it off with middle Australia.
It lives by pirating Labors left refugees.
You are both wasting your time, and welcome to the rats leaving our ship.
My party is better for the coming prison terms to those you highlight.
And for Kevin,s head on approach to reforms.
As it was in the Askin/Wran days, plus Queensland white shoe Mafia, no links to federal Party,s can be found, made up? yes.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 2 August 2013 5:03:27 AM
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To me the case is plain and simple, if his credit card, supplied by the union was for business expenses only, then he has no defense, however, if it were part of his package and as such paid his personal allowance expenses, then I would suggest he is not at faul.

But, the only reason he was supported by labor was numbers. Nothing else.
Posted by rehctub, Friday, 2 August 2013 7:19:18 AM
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I love how Rudd and all his cronies suddenly have amnesia about Obeid, when it is clear to the rest of us that with the power he wielded, it is unlikely that anyone in senior federal labor owed their positions in part to Obeid.

Dudd and all his cronies are trying desperately to ring fence this scandal and pretend that this is the end of it, but with ICAC now moving on other Labor ministers, this is starting to spread.

The huge corruption shown by Thomson and Williamson and the protection they were given shows that this is not just a NSW disease.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 2 August 2013 7:37:55 AM
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Will anyone actually be charged with anything, inquiries are one thing and convictions are another. Years have past and nothing. It's not exactly clean cut, as the SM would have us believe. it's best for the courts to decide. Anything else is wishful thinking.
Posted by doog, Friday, 2 August 2013 8:14:39 AM
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Belly, I started this thread after the SMH had given it extensive coverage, I buy the SMH everyday and it was big news on Wednesday, its that or a Murdock fish wrapper. Its not about The Greens, although we may benefit from a spill of votes from unhappy Labor lefties, I think many more Labor conservative will switch to the Coalition over this.
My line is although there has been plenty of argiee bargee about issues like carbon tax, asylum seekers etc, I am of the thinking this corruption issue in NSW, through a home state backlash, will on its own deliver government to Abbott. Rudd can do little to counter this one, like he has with the political issues.
I spend a bit of time 'on the ground', and in 2010 the feeling I was getting from the locals was not too bad for Labor, and Labor retained the seat with a swing against. In 2013 I'm not getting the same feeling despite polls saying its neck and neck, and its the corruption issue which is hurting now. What do you think?
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 2 August 2013 8:46:15 AM
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