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So that's why he won't call an election. Thanks Albert!
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Posted by rehctub, Monday, 29 July 2013 12:47:23 PM
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Doesn't have to be an election till late november. What is the rush.
Abbott wants an election because he can feel Turnbull breathing on him. It's up to Rudd and no one else. By the time November comes Abbott will have exploded or worse and no one will find him. Posted by doog, Monday, 29 July 2013 2:18:26 PM
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rehctub,
Fair crack of the whip. Who is "Albert"? You start a post by getting the principal character's name wrong. Then the first half of the post is peppered with spelling mistakes/typos.(We all make mistakes, but some care is required to at least get some sense into our posts) Rudd has already presented his so-called "solution". Posted by Poirot, Monday, 29 July 2013 2:45:57 PM
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Dear rehctub,
The political editor of The Australian newspaper, tells us that - Kevin Rudd's return as PM continues to boost Labor's stocks and has returned the government's primary vote to the same level as the last election. And, the latest Newspoll published in The Australian shows Mr Rudd has opened up a massive 22 point lead over Tony Abbott as the nation's preferred PM. Why should Mr Rudd hurry with the election - it's his choice no matter what the Coalition says. Of course the Coalition is worried. They're now beginning to be held up to scrutiny. Things are beginning to change. Interesting times ahead. Bring on the public debate. Posted by Lexi, Monday, 29 July 2013 3:12:41 PM
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cont'd ...
BTW: The correct name of our Deputy Prime Minister is - Anthony Norman Albanese. Posted by Lexi, Monday, 29 July 2013 3:15:25 PM
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Bring on the debate, maybe not. Abbott is not up to it. Just have to rely on what Mr Rudd says.
Good topic though, very intelligently produced. Posted by doog, Monday, 29 July 2013 4:00:48 PM
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his so-called "solution".
Poirot, Is that academic for no clue ? Posted by individual, Monday, 29 July 2013 4:26:17 PM
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Partisans on either side may have their own spin, but there is a lot of pressure from within Labor to go to an election ASAP.
Kevin Rudd enjoys the pomp and power of being PM so much that he is playing fast and loose with Labor's chances. The boat numbers will ramp up to test him. The strident activism of the advocates at home in Australia is advising the criminal people smugglers and the illegal immigrants themselves that the Australian government hasn't got the bottle to hold out. It is all bluff that will be soon compromised. Media sensationalism will see to that. The victim industry is good at working the media and especially the publicly funded national broadcasters. The ABC and SBS are working the sympathy angle for the boat arrivals. They will cost Kevin Rudd plenty with re-runs of available programs and fodder. I reckon that Rudd will hold on too long while he and his family are doing very well thank you out of the VIP flights and other benefits. He has only recently installed his young son as a senior adviser for example and the money must be good. Then there are all of those senior public servants and diplomats genuflecting and telling him what he wants to hear. What a rush, eh Kev? Albanese and others must have no fingernails left. Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 29 July 2013 4:40:37 PM
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Worth note John Howard twice went past 3 years before calling an election.
How ever our learned mate Rechtub is rather like the third bull in the killing line complaining about the two in front being too slow. Posted by Belly, Monday, 29 July 2013 5:32:46 PM
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Sroy aoubt taht Poirot, if olny I caerd enhough to care!
You have to owner about the importance of spelling, with works like cu, Gr8 etc. Posted by rehctub, Monday, 29 July 2013 6:46:31 PM
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http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/turnbull-is-still-tops-but-abbott-will-stay-leader-20130729-2quzn.html
I would have thought the link cry,s out for Rudd not to call an election yet. 17% of his own party? Or is it the nation? Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 5:48:23 AM
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As I say Belly, not a bad player to have on the bench.
I think we all forget one option, that being that Abbott can always resign, can't he! Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 6:10:31 AM
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Abbott has been power drunk for 3 years + and not going anywhere. He will see his party into oblivion.
Then Turnbull will rise and finish them off all together. Posted by doog, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 6:24:09 AM
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I make not a secret about the dislike I have for Mr Rudd but he might be able to win the election for everyone who wants us to win it for the Labour party. If Mr Abbott wins the election the country will surely crumble away to a mess, with human rights trodden all over, and other terrible things that will happen to us all under a Liberal Government! Liberal will remove the protection we have from our unions. Bring back work choices and then we will all loose our jobs.
I dislike Mr Rudd the dud a lot, but if he can win the labour election for us, maybe I was wrong about him? We need to have as many boat people as we can manage to accommodate here. Because, as the say often - "Populate or Parish". Why are Australians so scared of boat people? Take all their jobs? Or take all their houses and other modern appliances? Or is it because they just don't like people from other countries because they show how they have REAL SKILL OR ENTERPRISE by coming here under the eye of our to relaxed government? The Aussie Navy are not very good and efficient, otherwise they would be able to catch all the boat people. Or is it perhaps as many of my friends say! Some Aussies are very raciest with people from other countries. Posted by misanthrope, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 3:33:23 PM
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I think it's not immigration that is the problem it's forced entry. There are many millions that could potentially come here, and that is where the problem is. We are best prepared to take a steady stream not a raging torrent. It could be a full generation before there is any value out of these people, and in the mean time they have to be kept.
Hardly fair on the legitimate people that have waited years to get acceptance. Posted by doog, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 3:56:56 PM
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Rechtub at present you can dream.
And avoid the pain until it comes post election. Abbott dare not close his eyes however his dreams will both be true, and nightmares. He will never Be PM. Not ever, if he turned up to join Saint Kev, and agree to ETS GONSKY and NDIS then said we will do what ever Kev says on boat people? Every one would think it was just another Abbott lie! Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 5:31:32 PM
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rehctub>> It remains to be seen just how many gullible people there are around.<<
Butch, since the Gillard election win, whenever I drive past a bus stop and see 7 Aussies standing there, I just take 3 of them to be deaf, blind, and simple,….of feeble coherence. Definitely good at reciting things they hear, not too crash hot on the thinking front. Ask them why they vote Labor and they invariably say that they don’t like Abbott. I don’t like Abbott, but not for the same reasons as the majority of Labor voters. They don’t like the man, his persona. The slurs always come down to his look or a mocking of his macho physical activities. A while back Belly put up a post bagging Abbott for his part in the destruction of Pauline Hanson and her political aspirations. Back then I knew it was coming, there was no room for a grass roots party in our 2 party system, and the boys down at Union Hall were quietly pleased at the outcome. But the filthy act of having Pauline Hanson jailed finished Abbott with me forever. But if I vote Lib, I am not voting for Abbott….I am voting to get rid of historical incompetence from all the portfolios of this Labor government. Gullible maybe Butch, but definite feeble thinkers. Posted by sonofgloin, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 7:40:29 PM
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Doog>> It could be a full generation before there is any value out of these people<<
Value out of these people doogy? That’s a bit Mandigo old bean. Govt numbers revealed that 85% of “refugees” and their families are still govt supported after 10 years of residency. Welfare supported households begat welfare supported households. The first world does not have the manufacturing base to support unskilled or semi skilled migrants. Europe and the United States have had record immigrations into a diminishing manufacturing base, and now have record unemployment. There is no political bent to my views doogy, it’s just cause and effect and it affects all voters. There are bastards to blame for this but it is not the legal refugees, the ones with documents but no funds. Posted by sonofgloin, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 8:04:11 PM
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Rechtub it is a harsh truth.
But one you should not ignore. You throw the word gullible around and in doing that make claim voters on my side of the fence are fools. Now many do just that. And if we intend our words to be the truth it marks them. See we who vote other than you do not lack brains. We are as those on your side, but perhaps not as far right as you, are Australians. We may well clean the streets but some of us teach the kids and yes fight and fought for this country. I chance my arm here mate but maybe you need to consider are all Labor voters just gullible fools or is the problem yours? Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 31 July 2013 6:20:02 AM
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If Egypy gets out of control there will be several more million looking for a safe haven.
Rudd has got the election under control, so don't worry Turnbull has disgraced himself and is unlikely to take Abbott's what ever it is he does. Posted by doog, Wednesday, 31 July 2013 12:25:55 PM
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doog gday bloke, its me tapping on your shoulder ah think you have gone off a bit quick OK.
Bet Turnbull takes over again, ever a small chance it will be before the election. But while we are in front and should wander in,let us both not tread in it yet OK Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 31 July 2013 3:02:27 PM
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What does Abbott stand for now, Gonsky is in, the pope has no view on homophobia. Abortion is out. Birth control is out. These monks need to come into the real world.
Stop the boats, at the same time build a mega tent city on a tropical island of 9 thousand people. Mixed messages or mixed brain box. Abbott has nothing new to offer, Hockey says treasury is fraudulent, and will get his own figures, that is one way of getting something to add up Posted by doog, Thursday, 1 August 2013 7:28:43 AM
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Rudd hasonee more paliment sesion at his disposal (August 30) and it's my tip he is keeping his options open just in case he mamages to find a solution to his problem.
All makes sense now, but it also explains just how thin labor are and that they will still be wiped out if he fails.
Isn't it a pity he is only trying to fix a problem HE CAUSED!
It remains to be seen just how many gullible people there are around.