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How much is the PNG solution going to cost us.

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Does anyone know?

Or is this simply ANOTHER unfunded labor policy.

It appears that some things never change, even with a new leader.

I say agin, stop the foriegn aid, you will at least stand a chance of stopping the boats from leaving.
Posted by rehctub, Saturday, 27 July 2013 5:32:00 AM
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Lots!

Why would stopping foreign aid stop the boats?

The threat of being sent to camps and resettled in PNG hasn't.

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Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 27 July 2013 2:18:25 PM
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Rechtub is your thread about stopping the boats.
Or is it about the costs.
Maybe it is about cutting costs.
This much is true, a Tony Abbott lead country would be confronted with?
Stopping the boats.
Poirot, and others, must confront harsh truths.
Debate in this matter has pushed both sides to the right.
Include, dislike it if you want to, a truth, behavior of Muslim Migrants is at least in part behind our not wanting boat people.
Unkind but ultimately true.
Never forget, most know/think a lowering of our borders fence would see hundreds of thousands come.
All harsh but true.
Even you may agree with that.
Now.
Tell me, how will the sponsor of these boats/people having sabotaged every attempt to stop them.
Actually stop them if elected?
Abbott has the intellectual ability's of a concrete garden gnome, some of his supporters are not much better.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 27 July 2013 2:54:07 PM
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It hasn't pushed my debate to the right.

But yes, Labor has lurched far right to join the LNP.

Hint: they're gonna come anyway....big refugee crisis now underway, of which Oz receives few by comparison.

I'm thinking that Howard's 'solution" was achieved in part because refugee numbers shrank around that time. There are many more displaced people at present.

Besides, the two parties are merely trawling for votes, whipping up hysteria and playing on paranoia.

That doesn't necessarily translate into actually being able to stem the flow.

Belly, it's not about sabotaging anything, I'll be surprised if either offering can stop them.
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 27 July 2013 3:01:53 PM
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Poirot, stopping foreign aid to Indonesia may just force the law makers there to better control who leaves their shores.

It is quite obvious at the moment that one, either they don't care, or two, they are on the take, or three, a combination of one and two.

Belly, while I fully understand, and agree with you that stopping the boats will be the biggest challenge of the incoming government, if we don't do something, and soon, who knows where we will end up.

How on earth anyone can forgive Rudd for this, almost as if he had no involvement defies logic.
Posted by rehctub, Saturday, 27 July 2013 3:10:54 PM
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Rectub come into the year 2013, what worked temporarily years ago will not work now. Smugglers were always going to find a way around any obstacle.
If what you are saying holds water, how come Abbott is not taking the option of 10years ago up.
Abbott is proposing a system that has been in place since 2005 and adding a star. Did he forget or is he stupid.
I suggest he is stupid. Putting a price on a smugglers head may do just as much as twenty shipps can do. temporarily.
The problem is far bigger and more complicated than, you are giving credit for. Abbott covers his tracks by saying it will take 100 days to implement, even though it is in place now.
Posted by doog, Saturday, 27 July 2013 3:25:23 PM
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