If I was a supporter of the Coalition
Belly,
If I were a supporter of the ALP I'd bring out a red-hot poker & let them feel it.

I can understand why Rudd would get away from the "Great Big Tax" but
I just don't understand why he would go to the European ETS.

In the current budget papers the Treasury forecasts that the Eu ETS
will go to between A$50 to A$71 a tonne by around 2020.
The EU is currently removing credits from the market to force the price up.

From our point of view this seems suicidal !

Or is he doing it just to get past the election ?
Then intending to do something else by June next year.

What do you think he is up to ?

20/20 is enough time for the big polluters to get their act together.
That is what it is all about, Co2 trading is for real and will be a global standard, if you can see it or not.
With all eastern states and SA connected electricity is bought from the one pool where we all get the same base cost, it is only the retailers costs that vary. Never lock yourself into a contract.

Banjo, tying our ETS in with the European model sounds eminently sensible to me. Quite apart from climate change, we surely want a setup that will encourage alternative energy and help get us off of our total addiction to fossil fuels. And we want to do it in a way that is equal or comparable to many other countries so that we are not put at an economic disadvantage.

What is bad about Rudd’s move is that it takes the price of carbon backwards and waters down the purpose of the carbon tax / ETS, which is entirely the wrong direction to move in.

encourage alternative energy and help get us off of our total addiction to fossil fuels.
Ludwig,
You won't get an argument on that from anyone. where you will get one is as to WHAT alternative ? Solar ? The production of Solar is more polluting than burning fossils. What needs to be cut back to lower pollution are the war games, motor sport, incessant travel the list goes on.
Technology should of course be pursued to the maximum but not to treat frivolous polluting industry with kids gloves.

Luddy,
You may have the wrong bloke! My comment, on page 1, was about Rudd and Labor lying. He will say anything, just like Gillard, if he thinks it will gain votes.

For the record, I can see the climate does change but humans do not influence that. It is mother nature, just like the tides, earthquakes, continental drift and the magnetic poles shifting. There are things humans have no influence over.

If the warmists were fair dinkum about human influence on AGW they would address the world population influence on carbon emissions. Yet at every talkfest, they refuse to do so.