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The greatest moral dilemma of our time!

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Lexi,

You didn't answer the question,

"It is only fair to ask if there is anything remaining on THAT site that you haven't posted on OLO at least once and in the last fortnight?"

It is only fair to show some politeness and regard for the administrators of OLO by letting up a bit don't you think?
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 15 July 2013 4:11:46 PM
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Wow, otb!

Am I allowed to put up a link to the ABC? (wouldn't want to insult your sensibilities or anything)

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-07-15/abbott-dismisses-ets-as-market-in-an-invisible-substance/4820564

Ooops!

Here's goes Tone...

"It's a so-called market in the non-delivery of an invisible substance to no-one."

"Ever since Copenhagen, it's been absolutely obvious that the world is not moving towards taxes - whether they're fixed taxes or floating taxes."

But what about this, Mr Abbott?

http://watchingthedeniers.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/how-tony-abbott-killed-the-australian-climate-sceptic-movement-and-schooled-them-in-realpolitik/

"The coalition will consider ramping up the national target for reduced emissions as part of its Direct Action policy, The Australian Financial Review reports.

According to the newspaper, Opposition environment spokesman Greg Hunt told an audience in Canberra last night Australia would “easily meet” the already set target of reducing emissions by five per cent by 2020.

Mr Hunt conceded his confidence was rooted in a future coalition government’s willingness to consider raising the emissions reduction target as early as 2015."

Oh dear....

"Mr Hunt’s concession comes as opposition leader Tony Abbott unveiled plans to play a lead role in convincing China and the United States to sign up for a global climate change deal if he wins government.

Mr Hunt said under a coalition government Australia would still be part of a UN climate change process but would also pursue action with key members of Group of 20 nations.

“Where a real global agreement will come is when China and United States reach a point of common position and when that’s backed up with India and the EU,” Mr Hunt told ABC TV on Thursday.

Mr Hunt said Australia would chair the G20 summit in Brisbane next year and it was in a unique position “to bring together the G4 as the basis for a global agreement”.
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 15 July 2013 4:30:02 PM
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"A whole new level of stupid."

http://m.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/15/abbott-carbon-trading-invisible-substance?CMP=twt_gu

See what happens when Mr Abbott finds himself having to define what his government stands for?

He's still negative - ad he still can't get it right.
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 15 July 2013 4:35:12 PM
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Fate Hasbeen has been cruel to you.
How could you anyone, know this was to be the day Abbott lost the plot.
Those on your side of the fence went down with him.
Enough after this day will not vote for the man.
And you need to know red neck stuff is not going to help.
Mr Turnbull, how will you keep the extremes in your camp under control?
Posted by Belly, Monday, 15 July 2013 4:46:57 PM
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onthebeach,

I shall be happy to respond to you in greater
depth when and if you say something intelligent.
In the meantime - keep on stirring!
Posted by Lexi, Monday, 15 July 2013 6:01:03 PM
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Tony should have stuck with "it's a load of crap" and stuck with the facts that seriously question whether CO2 is pollution and climate change being a natural occurrence. Instead his mistake was trying to appease both camps and failing both.

Rudd is cleaver, his offer to replace the carbon tax requires getting elected, just as Julia's promise not to introduce it also required the faith of the public.

I fear we are seeing history repeating itself in more ways than one, including another three years of Labour decimating small business with phoney taxes and excuses to redistribute wealth.
Posted by sbr108, Monday, 15 July 2013 9:05:10 PM
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