onthebeach,

And it's obviously escaped your attention that for the purposes of OLO, this Poirot is not a "he".

I see you're following Loudmouth's practice.

Whenever you're pulled up for overdoing the drama or some such hysteria...you squeal "it's not about you" - and BTT.

Amusing....not original, but amusing.....

Thanks Poirot, Lexi and Belly for your kind words...and ditto!

I hadn't thought to post again on this thread after RObert's usual sneering comments to me.
In any case, we seem to go over and over this gender argument on OLO don't we?

I intend to mostly keep away from more than the occasional comment, and only after any particularly Neanderthal-like chest thumping comments from the usual offenders.

Otherwise, I may well end up in the sin bin... : )

Cheers,
Suse.

onthebeach! he? do you understand on form you get it quite wrong not often but nearly all the time?
SOG, now I like the Irish, truly.
But what are you on about?
I think the thread is rubbish.
But see nothing wrong with the women you seem ever willing to target.
Do you remember telling me in a thread you will target all sides of politics constantly?
Bloke some times you can not say both yes and no in answering a question.
I nearly giggled at your thought, defending them selves makes those you target radicals.

Sheesh, I go away for a couple of days and look at the place!

Ginny, I'm sure you're very sincere, but seriously mate, feminists are and always have been middle-class to their marrow. All your piece does is try to replace the mutuality of a life partnership with the pseudo-individuality of state support.

In effect it's no more than a demand that Dad should hand over the car keys and his wallet without being asked. As with the vast majority of feminists you're after a patriarchal structure that you can call on at will, but without any obligation in return for that unquestioning support - you just take it for granted.

You'll grow out of it. Or not. Either way doesn't really matter, Dad's nearly out of money.

Belly>> I think the thread is rubbish.
But see nothing wrong with the women you seem ever willing to target<<

I honestly was not having a shot at the girls, S, P, or L.

I was simply pointing out that female emancipation has come a long way in three or four generations….but feminists do not appreciate what they have achieved….they cry forever downtrodden. A little relativity is all I asked for.

Re the sledging of both sides of politics.
To start bagging Abbott and his team has a limited base to work from, other than conjecture because they are not governing. In all fairness china, have I not regularly given Barry O’Farrell a serve for lying and failing to deliver on his pre election promises?

Individual>>As with the vast majority of feminists you're after a patriarchal structure that you can call on at will, but without any obligation in return for that unquestioning support - you just take it for granted<<

Yes Indy, well put...feminism today is very much "to have your cake and eat it tooish."

Good to read another comment directed at the OP.

The shame for the Ginnys is that the general public, who are usually too busy working to raise their families and enjoy life some as well, have had cause particularly in recent times to question the malicious, plumb wrong discourse of feminism and its far left and poisonous lesbian rump.

It doesn't help that some of the most vocal examples have been highly advantaged educated middle class women who have waged class and gender wars from their elevated positions of status, while enjoying all (and more!) of the privileges of their status, and then retired young to enjoy large superannuation and other benefits for the rest of their lives. Fifty to sixty years living off the fat of the land, courtesy of the silver gouged from ordinary taxpayers. A radfem Marxist's ideal it seems.

One could be forgiven for believing that the whole aim of feminism in the West in modern times is to be catapulted into choice political and governmental positions, and from there to the boards of private companies. OK, make that guvvy quangos while waiting for affirmative action targets for company boards.

At its root, Ginny's strident demand is for a continuation of victim status and special pleading for women, with educated middle class womyn first into plum jobs through their Grrls' networking and favouritism of course. The hope is for the gravy train that has provided so handsomly for the feminist cargo cult since 1972 and Whitlam to continue indefinitely. At the same time radfems snarl at mothers for breastfeeding and wanting to raise families, and they deny counselling and support for vulnerable men, despite Australia being a world leader for male suicide.

That is why John Pilger must be scourged. Ginny and the Sisterhood are doing very well out of their victim status and hope for a lifetime riding the gravy train that has been so comfy for over forty years.

The taxpayer can't afford it. Absolutely not where ambulances are ramped outside Emergency entrances at hospitals.