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Leftist Men Are Not Born to Lead Radical Struggles

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Suseonline>> I would hate to think that feminism, in its purest form, would drop the ball now, with so much left to do...<<

What do the femista have to achieve in the first world Suse?
Posted by sonofgloin, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 8:11:55 AM
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I don't know about your 'first world' Sonofgloin, but in my world I would just like to see all women in all countries being able to live without violence in their own homes.
That's not too much to ask really...
Posted by Suseonline, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 8:41:02 AM
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Dear Suse,

Thanks for that.

There's an interesting article in the July issue
of The Australian Women's Weekly (page. 58),
"The Women Who Shape Melbourne." It's worth a read
if you haven't read it. I'll quote just a little
from it:

"At a time when terms such as 'misogyny' and 'glass
ceiling' are being hotly debated around the country,
Melbourne is just getting on with the business of
being the breeding ground for the country's best
female minds and the women who run Melbourne are a
power pack so influential that, collectively, they
manage billions of dollars worth of public and
private assets, employ tens of thousands of people and
set the policies that shape the future of the city."

As I said - it's an interesting read.

Dear SOG,

You ask about feminism and why is it necessary in
First World countries?

The following link may help answer your questions:

http://www.theage.com.au/comment/how-the-pms-gender-took-over-the-agenda-20130624-2oson.html
Posted by Lexi, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 12:28:14 PM
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So the radical feminists have ruled that Pilger is a 'rape myth promoter' and a 'rape excuser', while all Left men are 'sexist' and weak?

Pilger is especially foul to radical feminists for supporting Assange.

It is the 'purest form of feminism', lauded by Suseonline.

Any wonder young women run screamimg from the feminist dinosaurs who always presume to direct them how to lead their lives?
Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 4:12:48 PM
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In in my world I would like to see all people in all countries being able to live without violence in their own homes.
That's regardless of their gender or the gender of any potential assailants.

I'd also like to see people of both genders and most of the other groupings we seem so fond of be treated equally both in the letter of the law and in it's application.

I'd like to see just what the definition is of feminism is in it's purist form.

When critics of feminism attempt to address specifics a lot of feminists seem pretty keen to assure us that there is no purest form, the broad church approach is the defence for claiming the name feminist.

There appears to be a big range in the scale of what feminism could be, few seem willing to want to be tied down to what that purest form is exactly.

Whilst I disagree strongly with a lot of the analysis I can agree in principle with those seeking genuine equality of opportunity.

I'm strongly opposed to those seeking different rules for men and women. Eg Susie's support for abortion whilst maintaining that men should have no choice in regard to their ongoing liabilities after the initial sex act being a recent example which I've noticed none of the equality feminists seem to be willing to challenge.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 5:27:11 PM
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Suseonline>> I would just like to see all women in all countries being able to live without violence in their own homes.
That's not too much to ask really...<<

Absolutely not Suse, I whole heartedly agree.

>>The relentless persecution by senior male journalists, the vilification, the sexist mockery, the personal abuse and the contempt with which she would be treated<<

Lexi, this quote from your link needs some qualification.

When I consider other political leaders such as Angela Merkel and Maggie Thatcher, and both have welded on detractors, I note that the gender card has never been a part of their detractor’s arsenal. These girls are hated as if they were genderless, hated as individuals, a genderless vilification from the media and the constituents.

But Julia Gillard for whatever reason has evoked a disdain that permeates every plane of her being, her voice, her hair, her attire, her persona,… her gender….those who hate her, hate the lot, an almost schoolyard mentality.

The only issue I have with Julia are the words that have left her mouth.
Posted by sonofgloin, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 6:11:02 PM
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