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LAKE Vostock..baceria.. No evolution !

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more stuff that needs occur in a cell
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK21052/

that reveals chance
for the ..lol..first cell living is insane

just from ..a small bit of the page

<<<..default pathway

Constitutive secretory pathway that automatically delivers material from the Golgi apparatus to the plasma membrane if no other sorting signals are present.

degenerate

an adjective that describes multiple states\different triplet combinations of nucleotide bases (codons) that code for the same amino acid,

deletion

Type of mutation..in which a single nucleotide..or sequence of nucleotides has been removed from the DNA.

denaturation

Dramatic change in conformation//of a protein or nucleic acid usually resulting in the loss of biological function.

dendrite

Extension of a nerve cell, typically branched and relatively short, that receives stimuli..from other nerve cells.

dendritic cell

Cell derived from bone marrow and present in lymphoid and other tissues that is specialized for the uptake of particulate material by phagocytosis ..in immune responses.

desensitization

see adaptation

desmosome

Type of anchoring cell–cell junction,..formed between two epithelial cells,..characterized by dense plaques of protein into which intermediate filaments..n the two adjoining cells insert.

detergent

Type of small amphipathic molecule.l.that tends to coalesce in water,ith its hydrophobic tails buried..and its hydrophilic heads exposed.//It is widely used to solubilize membrane proteins.

determined

determination reflects a change..in the internal character of the cell,.nd it precedes..the much more readily detected process of cell differentiation.

development

Succession of changes that take place in an organism..as a fertilized egg gives rise to an adult plant or animal.

diacylglycerol

Lipid produced by the cleavage of inositol phospholipids..in response to extracellular signals...Composed of two fatty acid chains linked to glycerol,it serves as a signaling molecule..to help activate protein kinase C.

differentiation

Process by which a cell..undergoes a change to an overtly specialized cell type.

diffraction pattern

Pattern set up by wave interference//between radiation transmitted or scattered by different parts of an object.

diffusion

Net drift of molecules..in the direction of lower concentration due to random thermal movement.

diplotene

Fourth stage of division I of meiosis,in which chiasmata are first seen.

dissociation constant
Measure of the tendency of a complex..to dissociate>>
Posted by one under god, Friday, 26 July 2013 5:48:09 PM
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<<..Mr. Johnson's quote because by now the reader
should understand it better:

"Science [i.e. the scientific establishment] is committed to philosophical
naturalism [i.e. atheism in this context] and therefore science must
assume that no Creator, and no purposeful intelligence, is behind our
existence ...

All that science can address is the question of:
we are here as a result of purposeless material mechanisms, what's the
most plausible purposeless material mechanism that we can imagine?'"
Phillip E. Johnson, professor, author, attorney; quoted on UCTV>>..

They chose the theory of evolution as the "most plausible purposeless material
mechanism" because they were atheists.

However, because the theory of
evolution has failed to "prove" evolution, they have had to invent many types of
deceptions.

The most common types of deception they have used are the use of
tricky definitions and to assume the theory of evolution is true.

Truth was never their goal and will never be their goal because the foundation of
their "research" is based on philosophical naturalism (i.e. atheism). Anything that does not support philosophical naturalism is buried.

They will never consider anything to be "scientific" if it challenges their commitment to atheism.

evolutionists protecting their core belief of atheism.

How many cells are there in the human body?
No one knows, and over time..there have been many different estimates. No doubt the estimates will continue
to change.

But for now we will use the following numbers
(you will see that fine-tuning these
numbers will not change the outcome of these two chapters):

There are about 100 trillion cells in the adult human body.
There are about 100 billion neurons (i.e. brain cells in this context) in the brain.

There are about 1 trillion neurons (i.e. brain and nerve cells in this context) in the
entire body. The nerve cells are of course scattered throughout the body in a
complex network of nerves.

There are about 5 trillion glial cells in the body
(they largely do housecleaning..tasks such as cleaning out debris to protect the neurons..
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 27 July 2013 8:31:33 AM
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<<..About 16 trillion cell divisions will be needed to create the baby and 100
trillion cell divisions will be needed to create the adult.

Asymmetric Cell Division
As the cells are dividing, how does a brain cell become a brain cell? How does an skin cell become a skin cell? How does a liver cell become a liver cell? And so on?

All of these cells came from the same fertilized egg.
The difference between a brain cell and a bone cell, as two examples, is in which "genes" on the DNA are "activated."

When a "gene" is activated it can create
proteins. When a "gene" is deactivated," or had not yet been activated, it cannot create proteins.

It is the proteins inside the cell which are activated that determine what kind of cell it is. The proteins (which are created by the patterns of nucleotides of the gene on the DNA) provide the size, shape and function of the cell.

And the bproteins exist because the correct genes were activated.

The proteins have function inside the cell and actually extend to outside the cell and are used to attach to contiguous cells.

My point is that every cell has exactly the same DNA and every cell has exactly the same genes. What gives a cell its function and shape is in what genes are activated.

This is the key variation in the different types of cells.
So what determines which genes are activated, in a specific cell, as it is created during the morphing of the embryo algorithm?

No one really knows.
We just now it happens.and in time..we will know
but still..*not know how the first life was begot..?

*your guess is as good as mine..[sciences *best guess is meteorites..[lol]..sreriously..[so scien-terrific]

so how was it..*first developed ..pre being in meteorite debris
no doubt ..lol..yet other meteorites?..right?

anything but god.

ok im..over it
teach your demon children..what you will
trust self-serving elitist deceiving man..or trust a living loving good god.

just dont feign to know!
no-one does..so why teach evolution..*as fact?

ITS A THEORY*..till real falsify-ables ...are presented
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 27 July 2013 8:52:01 AM
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when a cell..divides,
the one old cell..becomes two new cells..*and the old cell ceases to
exist.

Frequently during cell division the two new cells may not have the same
genes activated as the old cell that divided.!

This is called "asymmetric cell division" because the two new cells may not be..the same as the "old cell" *,or the same as each other!

For example, let us consider three cells:
M) The mother cell,
1) The new cell #1,
2) The new cell #2.

These three cells,
the mother cell, the new cell #1 and the new cell #2 (created
by cell division) may have three different sets of genes activated!

Asymmetric cell divisions only happen when the person/fetus is growing...A "mother cell" divides into two "new" cells,..which then become "mother cells" themselves..when they divide.

When the cells quit dividing asymmetrically..an old cell is simply replaced by an identical new cell...The new cell and the old cell have the same genes activated.

But asymmetric cell division is needed
to create a human baby,..with many different types of cells when the baby is born.

To summarize, when "asymmetric cell division" happens,
the two "new" cells may*..have different genes activated than the "mother cell,"*..but after cell division the "mother cell" is gone.

Thus, the one cell..divides into two cells (because the
"mother cell" no longer exists after the cell division)..and each of the two new cells..*may have different genes activated than what the "mother cell" had activated and the two new cells may have different genes activated than each other.

The reason is that the first "bone cell"..(i.e. the first cell to have the "bone cell" genes activated),..during the morphing of the embryo,..*did not exist in the first,second or third levels of cell divisions.

*In fact,..no one knows when the first true.."bone cell" is created in this process...Thus, at some point,..a cell which was NOT a bone cell,..*must have divided to..*create two new cells, one or two of which became bone cells.

In fact,..this had to happen many,..many times
during the morphing of the embryo.because the
bones are scattered..all-over the entire body.
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 27 July 2013 10:45:10 AM
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The "path" issue can teach us many things..about the morphing of the embryo.
Let us name the cell (after the 10th cell division) that will become Bob: Bobby.

So Bobby existed after the 10th cell division but Bobby was still in the"asymmetric cell division" of the morphing baby and is not yet Bob (i.e.Bob will descend from Bobby,..and will NOT descend from any other cell which existed..*after the 10th cell division).

Was Bobby a pure neuron cell at this point?
Absolutely not. Bobby would..probably become multiple neuron cells, multiple glial cells, possibly multiple blood cell..wall cells and perhaps even some skull cells, etc.

Bob is just one of many..different types of cells that will descend from Bobby...So which genes are activated in Bobby?

Obviously,..no one has a clue.

Bobby will..eventually become many brain cells,
many glial cells,..many blood cell..wall cells, possibly skull cells, etc.

So let me ask again:..which genes are activated..in Bobby?
No one has any clue.

Where on Bobby's DNA..(after the 10th cell division)
is the information about..which genes..*will be activated when Bob is created by an asymmetric cell division in the 44th cell division?

No one has a clue.

The genes activated..on Bobby will..*definitely not be the same activated genes..as a neuron because Bobby..*will become several different kinds of cells.

We also don't know..in which cell division Bobby's descendant cells will first..*become pure neuron cells..with only the neuron genes activated.

We could ask this same question..about the 9 cells that preceded the creation of Bobby in the 10th layer of cell divisions...Which genes did they have activated?

For example, ..fter 5 layers of cell divisions
there are 32 cells in the fetus...One of these 32 cells will become Bobby and eventually Bob.

Let us call this cell..in the 5th cell division layer: Jim.

Jim would become..not only Bobby,
but likely skin cells..and hair cells.

Literally 1/32nd of all cells..in the body will descend from Jim, including Bobby and Bob...yet all*..will have died long ago

So which genes..were activated in Jim?
DONT Ask an evolutionist...ask god.
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 27 July 2013 2:07:25 PM
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How can a single fertilized egg..have information..about which genes..to activate for 16 trillion cells ..for a baby..and 100 trillion cells for the adult?

ie all of the information...the fertilized egg needed.

The fertilized egg..had to have the "path" information..for creating all of the cells..and it had to know which genes needed to be activated..on the developmental-path..[plus when]..during the creation.;.of all of these consecutive cells.

This includes..the information..about which genes..would be activated for Jim/Bobby/Bob..and many trillions of other cells.

How many cells..*existed..during
the morphing..of the embryo..and in the newborn baby?

In other words,.,.,if we include EVERY CELL,..even the temporary,
intermediate cells..how many cells need information..about which genes to activate?

The answer is..*35 trillion cells,
and that..is only the number of cells..up to the newborn baby.

While almost half of these cells,,have very specific genes activated (such as Bob,which is a finished cell),many of these cells(such as Jim and Bobby,..which are hybrid cells)..would lead to the creation of multiple types of cells.

Which genes do these roughly..*19 trillion hybrid cells have activated?

The DNA of the fertilized egg..*must have the information about which genes were activated..in these strange, hybrid cells!

Are you beginning to comprehend
the total absurdity of the theory of evolution?

There is no way that a single fertilized egg
can contain the information/timing/form..of what is
going on inside of 35 trillion cells just to create a newborn baby!

The theory of evolution has no answer to these issues.

There is simply not enough information..on a DNA strand to contain a list..of all of the genes that will be activated or deactivated, at just the right time,..in just the right path,..during the morphing of 16 trillion or 100 trillion cells!

One explanation of evolutionists..is that a cell expresses genes based on the genes..which are expressed in surrounding cells.

This is as naive as saying that..a jet airplane
can fly because the plane itself observes that nearby planes can fly.

Gene expression..happens inside the cell.
Cells don't have eyes..and cells don't have radar.

They only have..that life spirit/god gave them..
what is inside of them...building their..next astral..soul-form.
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 27 July 2013 3:46:25 PM
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