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The Forum > General Discussion > LAKE Vostock..baceria.. No evolution !

LAKE Vostock..baceria.. No evolution !

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Well, if that experience didn't get through to you that you were making incorrect assumptions, then nothing I can say will make any difference.

You clearly blame other people (police expert lies) for you own failings.

And, you have do to be a biologist (zoologist, botanist, microbiologist) first before you can do taxonomy.

Maybe you should stay off the pot? (and yes, I have partaken,in my youth).

Good luck!
Posted by Cossomby, Saturday, 13 July 2013 8:45:14 PM
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I am reminded of meeting some-one who was unable to admit he was wrong.

Many years ago I was camped out on the Darling River; our group was joined for a few days by some visitors. We heard a bird calling 'mopoke' and one of the new arrivals announced definitively that that was the tawny frogmouth. Now birds are not my area of expertise, so normally I would have said nothing, uncertain if my knowledge or memory was correct. But the night before we'd gone to a talk on birds in the nearby national park, and the ranger (who was a zoologist and a birdo) had pointed out that many people thought, erroneously, that the frogmouth call is 'mopoke' when in fact it is the boobook owl. I quoted the ranger to the visitor, and he was adamant: the ranger was wrong! So I got out the Birds of Australia handbook, and read out "many people think erroneously, that the frogmouth call is 'mopoke' when in fact it is the boobook owl."

So what did our visitor say, even more adamantly: "the book is wrong!" And he persisted for the rest of his visit continually bringing this up (when we all bored to tears) and repeating: the ranger is wrong, the book is wrong.

He protested too much. So do you.

My final comment...
Posted by Cossomby, Saturday, 13 July 2013 9:04:54 PM
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lol..final/comment..ok..typical

THIS POLICE EXPERT..did a weekend*course..ie..[expert/..under the act]
with*..taxonomist..she wasnt..'a'taxonomist..nor biologist!

the 2$..is irrelevant
bill=30..refund =3..=..27$ due..the 2 dollars=irrelevant

anyhow..wolves canis/lupus..[ie wild wolf]..into dogs[canis/lupus/familiaris)]

in genetics..called ancestral wildtype
that returns..when backcrossed

[the pigeons i studied has the blue bar rock dove [genus columbia..species/liva]..as its [+]wildtype[ancestor]yet all pigeons are[+]rock doves columbia/liva..

[and all dogs are[+]..wolves]canine/canis/lupus

its ALL..*in the canine..or columbia...*genus,

Evolution postulates wolves..[canis/lupus EVOLVED *from something canine..[something not wolf..From the miacids evolved the cat-like (Feloidea) and dog-like (Canoidea) carnivores

miacads evolved into canis..is what..evolution postulates
what are the proofs for Canis priscolatrans evolving into Canis etruscus,..then Canis mosbachensis,and in turn C. mosbachensis into Canis lupus,the Gray Wolf—immediate precursor to the domestic dog
[*IF canis EVOLVED..lol..from something ELSE,..:}

Miacids[42 million years ago]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miacids

traditionally, the Viverravidae (viverravids) ..ad been thought to be the earliest carnivorans,..with fossil records first appearing in the Paleocene of North America about 60 million years ago,

*but recent cranial morphology evidence
now places them outside the order Carnivora
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miacids#cite_note-Polly-1

this something else...can't be of the canis genus,
..evolutionary talking..as per..*tree of life..line of *decent

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viverravidae

<<The viverravids were thought to be..lol..the earliest carnivorans:
Recent cranial morphology evidence now places them outside the order Carnivora>>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viverravidae#cite_note-Polly-2

<<...Viverravid genera include Bryanictis, Didymictis, Ictidopappus, Mustelodon, Pristinictis, Protictis, Raphictis, Simpsonictis and Viverravus.>>..

..of the last 4..only raphictus has a page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raphictis

page dont say a lot more than
<<Raphictis is an extinct genus of Didymictidae.>>
and didymictidea dont got no page

but the taxon looks clever..
http://taxonomicon.taxonomy.nl/TaxonTree.aspx?id=657032
..till we reach the root
..the first ancestoral life

<<.. Natura - nature
Mundus Plinius - physical world
Naturalia - natural bodies
Biota
Domain Eukaryota Chatton, 1925 - eukaryotes
Unikonta
Opisthokonta Cavalier-Smith, 1987
Holozoa
Kingdom Animalia C. Linnaeus, 1758 - animals
http://taxonomicon.taxonomy.nl/TaxonTree.aspx?id=657032

so back to..*viverravids

..In viverravids, the number of molars
is reduced to two and the skull is elongated.

..Viverravidae is a monophyletic family, a plesion-group.
lol..They are not thought to be..related to any extant carnivorans>>

,mutations found WITHIN canis/lupus..[the genus>species
[C=c1,c2,c3 ARE all..within the'C'genus..of canis]

not'b'..evolving into..'c'..or c..into..D
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 13 July 2013 9:25:33 PM
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just because micro-evolution,..within species=no proof of macro-mutation..*into new genus*..

[best egsampled,..by imagining a warm blood-mammal..
semi-evolved from cold blood..fish....lolo..*until you can reveal..this half'cold../..half'warmblood..*intermediate..

the absurdity boggles the mind..into nonthinking..
just as was planned..[baffle em with bull*

it seems..this is what lineal evolution..is deceiving us..or just muddying the primal oooze

why so many page changes
just to find out doggie ancestors?

yes there is variation..WITHIN a species,
but evolution postulates canis..CAME FROM NON canis
or say canine..From the miacids evolved the cat-like (Feloidea) and dog-like (Canoidea) carnivores

[that hasnt been proved..[and cant be proved]
without falsifiable 'science'*!

[what would be new..is saying WHICH..non wolf
evolved the FIRST wolf,..[sadly..no proofs..]its only a opinion/spin

what NON canis..micro'EVOLVED'..canis..[wolf]?

or what evolution from canus/lupus/fasmiliarus..[dog]..ISNT canis/lupus[wolf]

that..*NOT canis..link is what is needed..
to prove genus level evolution!..[VIA the NATURAL selection]

DARWIN said reversion..into wild type..[a fact]
take out HUMAN selection,..THEN natural selection..
return the breed*s of dog..BACK into one of its 4 wolf ancestor's[canis][+}..[not catus

not a non canis]..as witnessed wild cats
returning to their..natural selection>[+]wild ancestral type[genus]by being bigger than domesticated..[man selected] cats..[genus felinus? or whatever]

BUT if evolution,..what cat[+F}became canis[+c]
or what boney fish..became homo/sap-ian

[fish breed fish..[dogs breed dogs]
its a logical..natural LAW

WHAT NOT canis;..non*wolf
was UN-naturally selected..[by humans?chance..into canis dog,

MAN did not create a canis genus,..
theory says..natural selection of canis created the dog..
[theory says..NOT science:..ie there is no falsifiability!..]

[what did the wolf canis ancestor descend..[evolve]from?
[what non canis..is its non mutant paternal's?

[that is what evolution is saying
[despite only proof..that *like breeds like,..dogs breed dogs..[cats dont]

understand the big picture of common ancestral decent
postulated as an evolutionary falsifiable..points only to the natural selector..[god [not dog]
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 13 July 2013 9:25:59 PM
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if the latin..phenotypical taxa..naming
was only kept within evolution
it wouldnt worry me..

what care i..if a docter describes the dis-ease
in latin..yes you have a chest=cold..[sounds better in latin
so we will give you..the flue..lol so you dont..get the flue..

google adverse/reaction
to perscribed drugs..killing millions

you will see these clever experts..are doing more damage,often in ignorance..or to earn the bonus pen/pad..from lawful international drug lords..selling prescribed drugs..in the prescribed manner

and god only cares..that we are happy/

allowing us..to believe..as we chose
but taxonomic deceits/lies ..jail/criminalize million.. via huge lies

in 1999..just in qld for example..35,000 'druggies'..got criminal records..lol.. for a plant..DEEMED to be a drug...by these real criminals..

and govt/revenue..*raised from the drug-fines
for all that pain/misery.. was 65 million[..1999..]

cannabliss..has never caused a death
except by clever spin

dont have withdrawal..symptoms..as its fat soluble
and was only criminalized..to takeover the hemp oil/fiber/rope industry..

cause they..could do it with petro_chemical

despite genesis 1;29 <<.,.King James Bible(Cambridge Ed.)

And God said,..Behold,
I have given you..every herb bearing seed,
which is upon the face..of all the earth,

and every tree,..in the which is
the fruit of a tree yielding seed;..to you it shall be for meat.""

but these labcoated deceivers
MAKE us blaspheme god..in many ways

first criminalize us for simply seeking pain relief
next force us to sign..promise..not to even talk with fellow users

force us to ignore james../jesus brother
to swear lies true..20 out of 21 plead guilty

James 5:12(New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)

12 Above all, my brothers,
do not swear—not by heaven or by earth or by anything else.

Let your "Yes" be yes,
and your "No," no, or you will be condemned.

Matthew 5:37 (New International Version)

37..Simply let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,'
and your 'No,' 'No';

anything beyond this comes from the evil one.

and as we know evil does its vile..in dark places][court rooms
govt legislature..in the dark hours..and importantly

runs away..when confronted
Posted by one under god, Sunday, 14 July 2013 9:12:14 AM
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google mercury mutation,..many fact's
have been altered..as we trust science..too_far.

http://altmedangel.com/vaccine.htm
>>healthy mercury?

When it comes to..other sources of mercury,they are extremely vigilant..mercury is particularly harmful to nerve cells,government health authorities have stressed..*that infants and small children shouldn't be fed these foods,and pregnant and nursing mothers should avoid eating tuna also...

..the EPA Environmental-Protection-Agency)has determined that the maximum allowable daily exposure to mercury is 0.1 microgram per kilogram of body weight,

>>the new flu vaccine for babies,called Fluzone,contains 25 micrograms of mercuryper-0.5ml dose.

Practically all vaccines contain mercury and aluminum.And vaccines are not"safer"sources of these toxic minerals.It doesn't matter if the mercury comes from fish or from a vaccine.The potential for neurological damage remains the same.

But for some reason,even though we're warned about fish consumption, vaccines and flu shots..are strongly encouraged and,in many instances,even required by law.

more babies seem to be developing autism problems,and the risk of developing Alzheimer's disease is steadily increasing.[lol]

Alzheimer's
linked to flu shots

In the year 2000,there were approximately 5million people in the U.S. with Alzheimer's,and it has become the fourth_leading cause of death in individuals over the age of 75.

By the year 2010,it is estimated that over 7 million individuals will have the disease,and by 2025,22 million will develop Alzheimer's.As the general population continues to consume more contaminated food,water,and medicines,

One expert stated that anyone who had five consecutive flu-'vaccine' shots increased their risk of developing Alzheimer's disease..*by a factor of 10..over someone who received only two or fewer shots<<

but science is deceiving us on
so many more levels[it is easy to go along with the crowd[just because creationism is hard to conceive dosnt mean evolution is PROVEN]

[if SCIENCE prove IT
dont create distractions based on weight of numbers who believe[but have never tested the science][science hasnt replicated that god alone can do..[yet the decieved accept it as fact]

both are theory

[chosing one..over the other..dont prove YOUR right
its just revealing..which you put faith in

LEST WE FORGET the burden..of science
claims fact,..FALSIFIABLE,..replicate-able fact

first make one just like it
then prove it's you..doing it..not god
Posted by one under god, Sunday, 14 July 2013 11:57:56 AM
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