Cont. God I hate that.
Poirot: although it's the first thing suggested by those who resent Middle-Easterners seeking asylum here.

I have no problem with Middle-Easterners, per se. I do have a problem with Muslims who once here will eventually demand that we all convert to Islam or they will kill us.

Poirot: Australia setting up a hell hole to dump its asylum seekers is obscene.

Australian Detainee Centres are a damm side better than what most of them were living in before they left where they came from. They were living in Mud brick squalor, tin & sapling shanty towns & one room grass huts in 50 degree heat. Or at least it was, until THEY destroyed it.

Now I have a question. The UNHCR sets up Refugee Camps over the Border from where refugee are fleeing from. The Australian detainee Centres are much better than the UN Refugee Camps, so why are they complaining

Why doesn’t the UNCHR set up Refugee Centres in other places, e.g. Indonesia, Malaysia, and Australia?

Is it because the UNHCR only recognises Refugee & Asylum Seekers in the first safe country they enter under the UNCHR Convention. They do NOT recognise people who go Country shopping. If the UN doesn’t recognize these people as Refugees & Asylum Seekers why should Australia?

Remember the UNHCR Convention is only a Convention. It’s not a Law. We are allowed to “not” to abide by any part we don’t want too & we can skip out if it any time we want too. That’s what it says.

Above all. Remember the words of Iftikhar & Abu Imam. There are no moderate Muslims. Either you is, or you isn’t. Islam is the World’s most dangerous & evil System of Theocratic Government. As such it must be kept out of Australia, by all possible means for the safety of Australians.

We could of course, assign every Greenie a couple of Families each. They have to be responsible for their every need. Housing, food, phone bill, transport etc. Well, they’re so keen to get the multitude here at any cost.

"I've already stated that I believe Australia should up its intake from Malaysia and Indonesia..." Sorry, Poirot, I missed this as your primary solution to deterring boat arrivals.

Joe has covered this well enough. It will only increase the chance of those with the resources to get to Malaysia or Indonesia of being settled here, not guarantee it, and so the boats will come. Settling more refugees from our immediate region will only thicken the refugee congregation in our region, and probably increase boat arrivals. Furthermore, the equity issue for refugees, as to who can make it to Malaysia and Indonesia, and who can't, seems not to bother Greens.

Your hyperbole over PNG is growing shrill, but that's not making your point stronger. We can't stop all bad things from happening in refugee dense parts of Australian cities, so why should we be able to do so in PNG? Whistleblower efforts are appreciated, not ignored. Australia can and will create the right environment there, no cognitive dissonance required, and the boats will stop.

BTW, is it just me or is the LNP mantra lately shifting more towards "Slow the Boats"? Perhaps its feeling the pinch over having to articulate how its policy of unilateral force will work, precisely.

Luciferase,

"Your hyperbole over PNG is growing shrill, but that's not making your point stronger. We can't stop all bad things from happening in refugee dense parts of Australian cities, so why should we be able to do so in PNG?"

Wow!

So we set up the prison. We dictate the conditions and oversee their implementation...but according to you, we're in no way responsible for the hellish situation that unfolds?

And you say I'm "shrill" and suffering from cognitive dissonance.

Bottom line is that these people aren't seen as "being like us" so we set them up in inhumane conditions as a political imperative, chanting "the boats have to stop". We don't like people drowning at sea, but by the same token we're happy to see these people dumped in a hell hole for years on end for having the audacity to knock on our door.

(I think I'm about done with this for now)

From on of the Simple Minded Bigots, thanks poirot.

poirot: we're happy to see these people dumped in a hell hole for years on end for having the audacity to knock on our door.

Sounds good to me. The conditions were better than they had where they came from (see my above post)until THEY wrecked them. Now we have a whole heap of homo's chasing little boys & you want them here too I suppose. Equal opportunity for Gays, I here you say. Bring them in too.

Do you have any comment on.

The UNHCR sets up Refugee Camps over the Border from where refugee are fleeing from. The Australian detainee Centres are much better than the UN Refugee Camps, so why are they complaining

Why doesn’t the UNCHR set up Refugee Centres in other places, e.g. Indonesia, Malaysia, and Australia?

Is it because the UNHCR only recognises Refugee & Asylum Seekers in the first safe country they enter under the UNCHR Convention? They do NOT recognise people who go Country shopping. If the UN doesn’t recognize these people as Refugees & Asylum Seekers, why should Australia?

We could of course, assign every Greenie a couple of Families each. They have to be responsible for their every need. Housing, food, phone bill, transport etc. Well, they’re so keen to get the multitude here at any cost.

Why aren't these people charged with reckless endangerment of a minor when they put them on boats?

Poirot, by all means be done, but don't petulantly verbal me:

"So set up the prison" What prison, they are settled not incarcerated.

"We dictate the conditions and oversee their implementation." You mean we set appropriate standards and see they are met?

"...but according to you, we're in no way responsible for the hellish situation that unfolds?" Australia will always bear responsibility for ensuring those resettled in PNG are not in "hellish" conditions under our "auspices". Refugees will have the asylum they wanted under the standards laid down in the UN refugee charter, or we will be culpable.

You nor the Greens have proffered a sensible solution to stopping the drownings (dozens more today), relinquishing that responsibility to other parties in politics. Instead you demonize the PNG solution with emotive hyperbole such as "...a torturous inhuman prison...", "...send women and children to the chamber of horrors..." just as you did with the Malaysian solution and just as you will with any solution that does not dissolve our borders to the masses.

I have faith that Labor or the LNP will do their utmost to keep PNG and other possible asylum providers under Australian auspices accountable while the arrival of boats is strangled, and beyond. Sorry you have no faith in your fellow Australians to get it right.

PS, I thought you side-stepped Joe's quite reasonable questions beautifully with your petulant objection to his sign-off. What's more important, your feigned offense at nothing much or discussing how lives can be saved? Perhaps change your moniker from Poirot to Pirouette

<<Can (Poirot) understand that the flow of boat-people will not subside by increasing the intake from Malaysia and Indonesia ?>> [Loudmouth]

LOL

That is the point, she does NOT want the inflow to stop.
She is on a jihadi against the West and open borders in only one front in that war.